Three Fly

warlock · Sep 9, 2007

There are several versions of this routine that I am aware of. These are:
1) Chris Kenner's Three Fly
2) Daryl's 3 Fly III
3) R. Paul Wilson's Completely Crowded!
4) Bob Kohler's Ultimate 3 Fly
5) Mark Mason's Come Fly With Me
6) others

I just wanted to hear your opinions on any that you know of, and if you could, explain the differences between each, which one your favorite is and why, etc. Thank you.

tazer · Sep 9, 2007

the 300 dollar one is a complete waste imo
while its a good product, its not worth more than the price of the gaffs
and than...there gaffs lol...why would u want that
umm, and kenners 3 fly is published in totally out of control....
and you should stick with that one
by FAR

Donny M · Sep 10, 2007

warlock said:
There are several versions of this routine that I am aware of. These are:
1) Chris Kenner's Three Fly (unpublished I believe, except for Three Fry in TOoC)
2) Daryl's 3 Fly III
3) Paul Wilson's
4) Bob Kohler's Ultimate 3 Fly
5) Mark Mason's Come Fly With Me ( I believe the most acclaimed)
6) others

I just wanted to hear your opinions on any that you know of, and if you could, explain the differences between each, which one your favorite is and why, etc. Thank you.

p.s. - I plan on purchasing #5, but $300 is pretty hefty so I need someone to push me over the edge

Chris Kenner's version was published in Totally Out of Control as "Menage Et Trois", as well as a separate booklet called "3 fly". It's ungaffed, and is unique in it's mechanics.

Paul Wilson's version is also ungaffed, and it's mechanics are closer to what the bulk of 3-fly routines use. It's published in a little booklet, as well as on his A-1 tapes, and more recently in his "crowded coins" PDF.

Bob Kohler's and Mark Mason's version use somewhat similar gaff sets, and are expensive, but look great, and are easier than most ungaffed versions. Bob Kohler's routine includes a handling which allows you to hand out the gaff set at the end, which you cannot do with Mason's.

They're all excellent routines, with the exception (for me) of Daryl's 3-fly, which I feel is not in the same league as the other routines.

If you want to learn the trick, your best bet is to study all of the material you can regarding the basic effects and methods.

Danny Joseph · Sep 10, 2007

Adding to the above: ThreeFry is not a VCA, rather a 3 coin vanish and reproduction, then simultaneous change.

Plenty of other performers have put out material on the VCA: Reed McClintock, Troy Hooser, Chris Korn (?).

Donny M · Sep 10, 2007

Danny Joseph said:
Adding to the above: ThreeFry is not a VCA, rather a 3 coin vanish and reproduction, then simultaneous change.

Plenty of other performers have put out material on the VCA: Reed McClintock, Troy Hooser, Chris Korn (?).

...Kainoa Harbottle (if you're feeling frisky), David Neighbors, Gary Kurtz, Geoffrey Latta, Nathan Kranzo, Jonathan Townsend... The list goes on.

Quite a few of them are similar in mechanics, but they all have something to add.

joshua barrett · Sep 10, 2007

kolhers routine is my favorate followed by kenners for no gaff needed

warlock · Sep 10, 2007

thank you all

. I actually ordered "TOoC" last week, but it is on backorder everywhere and will take a couple of weeks for the freshies to come in

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Amane · Sep 10, 2007

Don't forget Reed McClintock (spelt correctly?)

scottbaird · Sep 11, 2007

Amane said:
Don't forget Reed McClintock (spelt correctly?)

You did spell it correctly.

I'm a fan of the original three-fly, by Chris Kenner.
Scott.

Candide · Sep 12, 2007

Another one I found in youtube, very impressive
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=yAeiz2nTFWo

I'm working on "Ménage à trois" for 6 months, it is one of my favorite. I think I could present it in 6 other months to be perfect. I'm actually trying to build something before.
I think it is too powerful for a normal layman, if I start directly with. Maybe following the Paul Wilson 3 fly "Crowed to" for the coins' appearances.
And for this I use poker chips for the sound and the look.

BlueBackedBikes · Sep 13, 2007

Wow, the weirdest thing just happened to me. I was reading this thread (absolutely clueless, I might add) when I decided to go back to the 'Gneeral magic' section (I've got it bookmarked). And what do I see - a post by JBayme titled '1on1 - threeFry released'!

So yeah...maybe this will help

http://forums.theory11.com/showthread.php?t=872

EDIT: I've been told that three fry is not a three fly routine. Why must you insist on confusing me, Mr. Kenner -_-"

sean · Sep 13, 2007

Danny Joseph said:
Adding to the above: ThreeFry is not a VCA, rather a 3 coin vanish and reproduction, then simultaneous change.

I agree. I guess that's why they named it '3 FRY' and not '3 FLY'.

VCA = Visual Coins Across, yes?

Danny Joseph · Sep 14, 2007

You are correct, sir.

warlock · Sep 17, 2007

just bought TOoC from a local shop and the effects are ridiculous!! it's also "laugh out loud to yourself" funny and the "Name That Toon" pics are entertaining

Mars · Sep 19, 2007

I thought that Three Fry was the oriental version of Three Fly.

Ah..So.

tazer · Sep 19, 2007

Mars said:
I thought that Three Fry was the oriental version of Three Fly.

Ah..So.

lmao!
great stuff...

Chicken · Sep 24, 2007

Actually, (taking out the gaffed 3 fly's) many of today's 3 fly routines are pretty similar, with minor things like having the hands not touch . To the specators, they are all the same. So for me, that means sticking with the original- Mr. Kenners.

-Chicken

Amane · Sep 26, 2007

Well you can just adapt kenner's version with a shell as I did....uber cool...

howie3 · Nov 3, 2007

Donny M said:
Bob Kohler's and Mark Mason's version use somewhat similar gaff sets, and are expensive, but look great, and are easier than most ungaffed versions. Bob Kohler's routine includes a handling which allows you to hand out the gaff set at the end, which you cannot do with Mason's.

Three things about this. First CFWM comes with more gaffs than U3F. You can do U3F with the CFWM set. And yes you can pass the coins out in U3F but you can't give all the coins to one spectator cause they will see some of them are not the same if you have seen the gaffs you know what I mean. Peace.

Nikajo · Aug 2, 2008

warlock said:
There are several versions of this routine that I am aware of. These are:
1) Chris Kenner's Three Fly
2) Daryl's 3 Fly III
3) R. Paul Wilson's Completely Crowded!
4) Bob Kohler's Ultimate 3 Fly
5) Mark Mason's Come Fly With Me
6) others

I just wanted to hear your opinions on any that you know of, and if you could, explain the differences between each, which one your favorite is and why, etc. Thank you.

Lee Asher also has a 3 Fly called "3 Stylin'" It uses poker chips. It's very good, and it's umgimmicked. Of your list above, I owned #4 and actually sold it. You can do just as nice a 3 fly with no gimmicks for a fraction of the cost. Check out Trio by Gary Kurtz. It can be found in his book "Unexplainable Acts". Check out "The Silver Surf II" for Troy Hooser's version. In the end each routine accomplishes the same task. Check them all out for yourself and you decide.

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