Angle Proof Surrounded Tricks

Jun 10, 2008
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Hey does anyone know any really hard hitting tricks that are angle proof. By angle proof i mean there are people all around you, so a mere pass, marlo tilt, or even a pinky break can be seen. I prefer them to be impromptu but if it needs a setup i think i can manage. The only ones i know right now are the biddle trick and sloppy shuffle triumph.
 
Nov 10, 2007
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I would say any sandwich effects are definatley good for being surounded. Learn how to manage your crown by doing so you do not need to worry about your angles if your crowd is positioned right, if you know what I mean.
 
Aug 25, 2008
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Magical Thoughts on Angles

This is an important topic in magic that I couldn't resist giving my take on. So here it is. Do angles really play a major role in close up magic? Yes, but I believe that their worrisome nature can be overcome with simpler (not necessarily easier) sleights and spectator management.
In my opinion, there are many sleights and tricks that can be done surrounded. However, some magicians have forgotten our long-lost tool called Misdirection.
Learn to control your audience by saying things like "Come around to the front, so you can see better, " or in a crowded situation, "Could you give me some room, please?" These lines will work wonders. Asking for an angle-proof trick in my mind is the same as asking for a spectator-proof trick. If your audience wants to see your magic, they will listen to what you tell them and respect your simple requests, unwittingly making the entire effect easier for you as the magician.
As far as angle-proof goes, Two Card Monte, ACR, and countless other tricks fall into that category. (I use the above tricks as an example, since the vast majority of magicians have performed those effects). However, I noticed that most of the sleights you mentioned (especially tilt) CAN and HAVE been done surrounded. It's all up to the skills and crowd handling of the performer. I recommend learning a good breakless double lift, and never holding a break for too long. Spectators can and will focus on stationary objects, when not being directed or MISdirected on where to focus.

In closing, don't be afraid of angles. Get comfortable palming and even doing the pass surrounded. And it might also help to remember that you'll never fool ALL of the people ALL of the time...unless you have a TV show. I hope this helped somebody out...
 
Jun 10, 2008
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You little stalker!
This is an important topic in magic that I couldn't resist giving my take on. So here it is. Do angles really play a major role in close up magic? Yes, but I believe that their worrisome nature can be overcome with simpler (not necessarily easier) sleights and spectator management.
In my opinion, there are many sleights and tricks that can be done surrounded. However, some magicians have forgotten our long-lost tool called Misdirection.
Learn to control your audience by saying things like "Come around to the front, so you can see better, " or in a crowded situation, "Could you give me some room, please?" These lines will work wonders. Asking for an angle-proof trick in my mind is the same as asking for a spectator-proof trick. If your audience wants to see your magic, they will listen to what you tell them and respect your simple requests, unwittingly making the entire effect easier for you as the magician.
As far as angle-proof goes, Two Card Monte, ACR, and countless other tricks fall into that category. (I use the above tricks as an example, since the vast majority of magicians have performed those effects). However, I noticed that most of the sleights you mentioned (especially tilt) CAN and HAVE been done surrounded. It's all up to the skills and crowd handling of the performer. I recommend learning a good breakless double lift, and never holding a break for too long. Spectators can and will focus on stationary objects, when not being directed or MISdirected on where to focus.

In closing, don't be afraid of angles. Get comfortable palming and even doing the pass surrounded. And it might also help to remember that you'll never fool ALL of the people ALL of the time...unless you have a TV show. I hope this helped somebody out...

Thats very helpful but often times, i will be asked to preform at one of my mom's parties. The situation is that everyone's seated on all sides of me and i have plenty of room so that lines you gave me wouldn't work.
 
Aug 25, 2008
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Either way, analyze your routines and have a reason for every move you make. Misdirection is very powerful. Use it to your advantage. And if you perform standing, you could try those lines out.
 
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