False Shuffle

Apr 26, 2008
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There's several.. but possibly the one you're looking for is in Brian Tudor's 'Card Sharp'. He's got a couple of things in it which have full deck retention (whole deck stays in same order).


Hope that helps!
 
Nov 2, 2007
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Melbourne, Australia
The forementioned 'Zarrow Shuffle' is definately worth looking at. Another really good false tabled riffle is the 'Push Through'.
Luke Jermay has an instant download on PenguinMagic teaching false shuffles, that's were I learnt mine. May be worth looking at...
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TKH

Aug 31, 2007
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Wisconsin
What about the Truffle Shuffle in dananddave? It looks very deceptive.

Thats not a table shuffle.

Go for the zarrow shuffle it is recognized as the most used and most deceptive table shuffle. Push through looks a bit more convincing in a poker game setting though.
 
May 8, 2008
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You may want to check out the Erdnase Bible. I believe that that has several table shuffles retaining the entire deck. And anyway, 'tis a great book. You've got no excuse NOT to check it out. If you don't check it out, I shall personally unleash the army of ninjas I have hiding in my wardrobe. Then you'll be sorry. So yeah, check out the Erdnase Bible. Am I rambling?
 
May 13, 2008
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St Albans, UK
Thats not a table shuffle.

Go for the zarrow shuffle it is recognized as the most used and most deceptive table shuffle. Push through looks a bit more convincing in a poker game setting though.

I don't think i've ever seen the Zarrow done well apart from when Herb does it himself. I just think its too obvious to magicians but then again, youre not performing for magicians.
 
Dec 28, 2007
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I don't think i've ever seen the Zarrow done well apart from when Herb does it himself. I just think its too obvious to magicians but then again, youre not performing for magicians.

I agree with the first part, but I think that the deceptiveness is as important for laymen. And I think that laymen will see the difference. Probably most of them won't go out and shout "False shuffle!", but they will note that shuffle looked different. Perhaps they forget it, perhaps not.
 
Jan 31, 2008
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Brooklyn, NY
If you need to shuffle to kill time while pattering to cover the concept of a stacked deck trick you can use the Divided Shuffle (Luis Otero). It's construction takes up quite a bit of time and it simulates the shuffling seen in casinos.
 
Nov 30, 2007
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I know you already found what you were looking for but there is a false table shuffle (not a riffle one) in the Trilogy (on the everythingelse disc) by Dan and Dave Buck.
 
Nov 4, 2008
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the truffle shuffle is a great false shuffle i think it is probably the best in the hands false shuffle but it you want a table false shuffle i would get the zarrow shuffle. i use both of them all the time.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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England
Try Ackerman's Advanced Card Control Series Volume... oh man... 5? Might be a different volume, but the one you want is helpfully entitled 'False Shuffles' and covers all manner of false shuffles. Herb Zarrow's DVD Herb Zarrow on the Zarrow shuffle is the way to learn the Zarrow shuffle though.

Incidentally, the reason you've never seen a good zarrow is because you can't see a good zarrow, it just looks like a shuffle ;)

Tom
 
May 13, 2008
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St Albans, UK
Incidentally, the reason you've never seen a good zarrow is because you can't see a good zarrow, it just looks like a shuffle ;)

Tom

Fair point there sir. Incidentally, most magicians perform a slip cut variation on the Zarrow which is difficult to do well. The two shuffle Zarrow is much more forgiving for laymen and looks great. Back to the ol' close up mat.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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Sydney, Australia
If you know how a Zarrow Shuffle works, you obviously will be able to spot one just due to the motions. Laymen don't have a clue about the Zarrow Shuffle so they don't know what to look for. Whatever you do, don't get Card Sharp by Brian Tudor because personally, I think he can't do the moves well. His "Tudor Shuffle" is basically a push through followed by an up the ladder. He did not invent it so I don't know why he put his name to it. Personally, for laymen I'd use a Zarrow just due to the simplicity but occassionally I'd use a push-through sequence.
 
Sep 2, 2007
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My favourite tabled false shuffle is a bridged push-through (which is different from a pull-through apparently, although explanations seem to vary on what the difference is). I got that variation from Richard Turner's The Cheat DVD, but the basic push-through is taught on pretty much every gambling technique DVD and in almost all the standard books. It's not taught in Erdnase, although he mentions it in passing. I'd recommend that you learn the push-through and an up-the-ladder cut. When done smoothly, it looks almost impossible that you could retain the order of the deck as the audience gets a clear image of cards being shuffled into each other, then the top card being buried under successive cuts. Also, it looks a little bit flashy, but not too much, as if you know how to handle cards, but not as if you're controlling them, in the same way a professional casino dealer might do. For gambling demos, therefore, I think it's perfect.
 
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