Armspread trouble

[MagicShadow9]

Well I've decided to start working more on my armspreads. I've gotten the spread and catch down but theres one problem. whenever is spread it on the front of my hand, there's always a break that forms at my wrist. Like the edge of the card hit the base of the thumb and then seperate, which makes it harder to turnover and catch. So how do you fix this problem? If you have anysuggestions please let me know. Thanks!

 

[FadedTemp]

I tend to start my armspreads at the wrist and move down, my knuckle creates a break very similar to what you're talking about and when I toss it up it either doesn't turn over like the rest of the packet or it breaks away and doesn't fall in the same place.

 

[trashmanf]

Hi, this is a very common problem, it has to do with your technique for creating the spread.

With your spreading hand, you should bevel the cards and with your thumb, riffle off the cards as you spread along. use a LOT of pressure for a more even spread also

mainly, the part of the deck touching your arm should be the very edge of the deck, the long far side (think of it as like a razor or something shaving your arm)

now since your release is controlled completely by your thumb of your spreading hand you can determine how evenly the spread is made no matter where your "break" between thumb and wrist happens on the spread-on arm.

once you have an even spread the turnover will work alot better.

 

[42613]

Hi, this is a very common problem, it has to do with your technique for creating the spread.

With your spreading hand, you should bevel the cards and with your thumb, riffle off the cards as you spread along. use a LOT of pressure for a more even spread also

mainly, the part of the deck touching your arm should be the very edge of the deck, the long far side (think of it as like a razor or something shaving your arm)

now since your release is controlled completely by your thumb of your spreading hand you can determine how evenly the spread is made no matter where your "break" between thumb and wrist happens on the spread-on arm.

once you have an even spread the turnover will work alot better.

Listen to the man Also, don't try spreads with the same cards you do cuts with (or just no clumpy cards) it is near impossible to do spreads with clumpy cards, and it is impossible to do turnovers with those type of cards, I think when doing armspread the most important things to watch out for are good conditioned cards (fanning powder will help immensely with Armspreads) and applying lots of pressure when spreading the deck, that will ensure the spread holds together when you toss it up for a catch or whatever, rather than desintrigrating....

 

[KevinOwens]

I find that creating somewhat of a curve of your wrist helps this. Holding your hand completely flat causes something like a speed bump.

Listen to Trashmanf, and try creating an even surface to spread on.

-Kevin

 

[BlazeCinder]

does the amount of cards spread matter??

 

[KevinOwens]

does the amount of cards spread matter??

It depends on how big you want the spread to be

-Kevin

 

[42613]

It depends on how big you want the spread to be

-Kevin

That's what she said?

Yes it does, you don't want a spread much smaller than 20 cards or else it'll be much harder to turn over and keep in tact....

 

[trashmanf]

well the denser and the more even the spacing is what makes it easier to turn over. if your spacing is further out (less cards for a given constant length) then your spread must be REALLY even or you are screwed. wait until you try a dual-back-armspread-turnover-transfer and all of these factors have to combine.

I recommend just doing back-arm spreads while you get the idea of the controlled spread, toss, and catch... its alot easier. then move to conventional armspreads.

 

[KevinOwens]

wait until you try a dual-back-armspread-turnover-transfer and all of these factors have to combine.

is that even possible??

 

[42613]

is that even possible??

Yes.... lol, it was on one of his old vids that it looks like he took down

 

[trashmanf]

just learn the interlocking double-back armspread first which is actually relatively easy... but then initiating the back-arm turnover while "loaded" is freakin hard. combined with the re-interlock and turnover transfer makes it freaking difficult (my video version was too slow so I took it down) but its one of my favorite moves still, should definitely appear again

 

[KevinOwens]

just learn the interlocking double-back armspread first which is actually relatively easy... but then initiating the back-arm turnover while "loaded" is freakin hard. combined with the re-interlock and turnover transfer makes it freaking difficult (my video version was too slow so I took it down) but its one of my favorite moves still, should definitely appear again

Take the word 'armspread' out of there and you sound like an Olympic gymnast on the uneven bars.