Yeah I use the box steal in the routine too... wicked move and lots of potential to be creative with the reveal! Thanks for the ref - Rich Aviles, will check it out, looking for as much card to box reference I can get to really polish it off and make sure I'm not missing anything interesting...
I also use a version of Kosyta Kimlats - Shculean re-loaded (not sure of spelling) which I arrived at by myself, and then saw he had a version too - snap deal with a double, reveal selected card from box ('x' card stays hidden), then I do a kind of slide move to get purchase on 'x' card under the box as you put selected on top - load selected card back into box as you put 'x' card back in the deck, spectator can reveal themselves then which is nice! Looks really good live as you do the load as they're reacting so there's sooo much time and misdirection, trickier to catch on film
If you haven't seen Derren Browns card to (under) box routine on the Devils Picture book I'd check it out... I also use the sleeve move he does in my routine as it's very nice indeed and cleverly motivated and very hard hitting.
Thanks again guys,
J