This topic (revealing secrets freely) has been discussed over and over again...but one site in particular made me rage.
Link Removed, We don't want this to spread more than it already has. - L
This site seems so different than other reveal sites in that some only have a small amount of material they reveal. This one, however, is different. Peruse the website if you will and you will see.
How I came across this site was as such: For some reason I wanted to see Frozen by Adam Grace again and typed it in on Google. I was about to click the E link and saw the link below it. I had never seen it so I thought I'd click on it. (No I was not looking for a reveal)
It took me to a forum to where the members openly REQUEST methods. I saw a post inside this forum which pissed me off so bad I felt the need to make a thread here, even if it gets no responses at all. Here is the post in full:
This first post was someone who bought the trick begging them not to reveal:
"PLEASE DO NOT REVEAL THIS TRICK!!
Support Adam, support magicians LIKE YOU, creative magicians LIKE YOU. Help them to develope new ideas and put it in our hands, is that simple, if they don't get any money, they won't release any other effects, it's a pain in the ass film a DVD, produce it, edit it and release it. we are a community, we have to support each other.
I bought the DVD yesterday with the download, I think that $30 for the secret is a VERY LOW PRICE TO PAY, remember that you're buying a secret, not just a DVD showing some trick and explaining, you're buying a secret. keep it for yourself, YOU paid for that secret, take care of it.
yes, in germany you can buy what you need... I found them in
Colombia-South america, I won't tell what you need, but YES you can find it there."
And in response to this ace_magic says:
"well, hmm...
you see, the way i see it is that if you want people to buy your trick, then do it in performances. adam took the cheap way out, along with every orther magician who sold their tricks. do you understand where im coming from? magic is obsolete now because people sell their tricks. sure, it makes sense to sell a small trick like that, cause that wont be a final act in a show, and yet, if you want to be a good magician dont you want to perform tricks that NO ONE else knows? selling your tricks seems like a crutch, an insecurity. if youve seen "The Prestige", then you know where im coming from, if robert had sold his tricks to people, then we wouldnt have a movie what so ever.
ok so maybe i didnt use the best way... but what im trying to say is that most of us here are young creative minds, we can see out side the box(heck, im only 15).
so, if we have a passion, why sell that passion to people, this is YOUR GLORY, YOUR PRIDE, show people what you can do, but the secret impresses no one, remeber that.
the people who do give a rats ass about your trade will buy your trick, so in essence, the only ones who wont know are the people who dont care to know. sure, theyll be amazed, but arent we here to fool magicians? that is where we get pride ang glory, by fooling the ones who do care, so rember this when your about to sell your trick, remember your glory and pride..."
This made my soul cringe and run for cover. I just... **** that site. I would like to hear your discussions on this... I do wish that there was some way to get this site shut down because they have many, many, tricks revealed, including T11 tricks. ***holes...
/rant
Link Removed, We don't want this to spread more than it already has. - L
This site seems so different than other reveal sites in that some only have a small amount of material they reveal. This one, however, is different. Peruse the website if you will and you will see.
How I came across this site was as such: For some reason I wanted to see Frozen by Adam Grace again and typed it in on Google. I was about to click the E link and saw the link below it. I had never seen it so I thought I'd click on it. (No I was not looking for a reveal)
It took me to a forum to where the members openly REQUEST methods. I saw a post inside this forum which pissed me off so bad I felt the need to make a thread here, even if it gets no responses at all. Here is the post in full:
This first post was someone who bought the trick begging them not to reveal:
"PLEASE DO NOT REVEAL THIS TRICK!!
Support Adam, support magicians LIKE YOU, creative magicians LIKE YOU. Help them to develope new ideas and put it in our hands, is that simple, if they don't get any money, they won't release any other effects, it's a pain in the ass film a DVD, produce it, edit it and release it. we are a community, we have to support each other.
I bought the DVD yesterday with the download, I think that $30 for the secret is a VERY LOW PRICE TO PAY, remember that you're buying a secret, not just a DVD showing some trick and explaining, you're buying a secret. keep it for yourself, YOU paid for that secret, take care of it.
yes, in germany you can buy what you need... I found them in
Colombia-South america, I won't tell what you need, but YES you can find it there."
And in response to this ace_magic says:
"well, hmm...
you see, the way i see it is that if you want people to buy your trick, then do it in performances. adam took the cheap way out, along with every orther magician who sold their tricks. do you understand where im coming from? magic is obsolete now because people sell their tricks. sure, it makes sense to sell a small trick like that, cause that wont be a final act in a show, and yet, if you want to be a good magician dont you want to perform tricks that NO ONE else knows? selling your tricks seems like a crutch, an insecurity. if youve seen "The Prestige", then you know where im coming from, if robert had sold his tricks to people, then we wouldnt have a movie what so ever.
ok so maybe i didnt use the best way... but what im trying to say is that most of us here are young creative minds, we can see out side the box(heck, im only 15).
so, if we have a passion, why sell that passion to people, this is YOUR GLORY, YOUR PRIDE, show people what you can do, but the secret impresses no one, remeber that.
the people who do give a rats ass about your trade will buy your trick, so in essence, the only ones who wont know are the people who dont care to know. sure, theyll be amazed, but arent we here to fool magicians? that is where we get pride ang glory, by fooling the ones who do care, so rember this when your about to sell your trick, remember your glory and pride..."
This made my soul cringe and run for cover. I just... **** that site. I would like to hear your discussions on this... I do wish that there was some way to get this site shut down because they have many, many, tricks revealed, including T11 tricks. ***holes...
/rant
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