A Members Challenge...

William Draven

William Draven

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So Toby had a brilliant idea in another thread that I thought should be entertained more.

Would anyone be interested in participating in a friendly video performance challenge with each other here on the forums? Say... closeup magic for a real audience? 1 effect/routine, dealers choice? 2 votes. Popular (based upon a poll of the forum members at large) and Technical (based upon selected judges input.) Judges score based on Presentation, Technical Handling, Audience Interaction, and Overall Entertainment Value.

I don't know what we could do about prizes. I could probably pony up for some autographed cards from some of my Vegas contacts. Maybe I could throw in a few decks too. I mean it wouldn't be kick ass stuff like what T11 does for SNC's but at least it's something more than bragging rights.

I know we have a battle forum (or did at one point), and perhaps this is better suited to be hosted there. Except this isn't so much a battle between two people as it is an opportunity for anyone to jump in the fun. Thoughts? Opinions?
 
Toby

Toby

Sep 1, 2007
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William Draven said:
So Toby had a brilliant idea in another thread that I thought should be entertained more.

Would anyone be interested in participating in a friendly video performance challenge with each other here on the forums? Say... closeup magic for a real audience? 1 effect/routine, dealers choice? 2 votes. Popular (based upon a poll of the forum members at large) and Technical (based upon selected judges input.) Judges score based on Presentation, Technical Handling, Audience Interaction, and Overall Entertainment Value.

I don't know what we could do about prizes. I could probably pony up for some autographed cards from some of my Vegas contacts. Maybe I could throw in a few decks too. I mean it wouldn't be kick ass stuff like what T11 does for SNC's but at least it's something more than bragging rights.

I know we have a battle forum (or did at one point), and perhaps this is better suited to be hosted there. Except this isn't so much a battle between two people as it is an opportunity for anyone to jump in the fun. Thoughts? Opinions?
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Perfect, I'm in. It doesn't have to be that formal, I can imagine most people would back out of it because of fear of judges. So we can make it a contest, or we can make it a "collection" of live performance videos from our members. I will go for either.
As far as the prizes go, I would love to contribute, I just need to find a way to do it.
 
Pete Pridanonda

Pete Pridanonda

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I'm in. But I have a few questions:
Can it be a video that you already have on youtube or do you have to make a new one for this contest?
Do you want to be the video performance of just one effect for an audience or do you want to be a full show? Will you get more points if it's a full show or is this contest only limited to just one effect.
Toby, I think it'll be better if it's a contest.
 
William Draven

William Draven

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Well I think that the video submitted should be filmed specifically for the contest. For the sake of time I think all submissions should be of only 1 trick or routine. If it's taken from a larger show, then edit it down to feature the one effect. I like the collection idea too. I mean contests are fun but that may put a little too much pressure on this. Then again people may enjoy the competition too.
 
Pete Pridanonda

Pete Pridanonda

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Sounds good. Let's make the announcement as soon as possible because I will start school in two weeks and might not have time.
 
RickEverhart

RickEverhart

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I'd be in but don't really have any gigs lined up until I am back at school with my classroom of students. I don't really care about winning, but could get some good live footage of me doing a Friday performance like I do every Friday in my classroom. I know a lot of you have not seen me perform on video just pictures so it would be good for me as well.
 
Toby

Toby

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Maybe it doesn't have to be a new video, just the newest one you have. Since I'm not back on the ship for another month, and a live footage in Serbia is pointless because of the language.
 
Pete Pridanonda

Pete Pridanonda

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When will the contest begins? Please pm me once you decided to make this official.
And William, yeah I think it's better if we could send in any video. I have a lot of great live performances up on my youtube channel but now I won't have another gig or family gathering in quite a while.
 
Toby

Toby

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goatears said:
I don't mind however you do it, just make the rules and regulations clear when you do
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So how about this:

Rules:
-Must be a live performance in front of strangers (not friends or family)
-Must be only one trick (choice of a trick is up to you)
-Two way judging system (as suggested by William)
-Length of a video is up to you (remember that most people these days have ADD, so try not to make it 10 minutes long)
-Video has to be recent (let's say not older than 6 months)

Any thoughts?
 
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Oli Smith

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Sounds great, im in.
Just a quick question though.
-Must be only one trick (choice of a trick is up to you)
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What do you classify as only one trick? for example, i've got a street routine where the spectator continuously selects the same card over and over and i use this to flow straight into an ACR, talking about how that cards clearly quite ambitious if it keeps being selected. This is only a 5 minute routine using the same card all the time, but technically its multiple tricks strung together. I wont perform this for the contest if it goes ahead but its a good example of my query.
Cheers
 
Toby

Toby

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Oli Smith said:
Sounds great, im in.
Just a quick question though. What do you classify as only one trick? for example, i've got a street routine where the spectator continuously selects the same card over and over and i use this to flow straight into an ACR, talking about how that cards clearly quite ambitious if it keeps being selected. This is only a 5 minute routine using the same card all the time, but technically its multiple tricks strung together. I wont perform this for the contest if it goes ahead but its a good example of my query.
Cheers
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Well, if you do sponge rabbits and then "3 fly", those are two different tricks. However, if you classic force a card couple of times as a lead into your ambitious card (assuming that you are using the same card for forcing, and then ACR), then it can be considered as one trick. But if you force a card couple of times, and then give another spectator to choose a card and sign it for ACR, then those would be two different tricks.
Makes sense?
 
Josh Burch

Josh Burch

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Oli Smith said:
For example, I've got a street routine where the spectator continuously selects the same card over and over and I use this to flow straight into an ACR...
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In royal road this is how an ambitious card trick is explained. That the magician convinces the spectator that the whole deck is made up of one card :)

That's very clear toby, I'll see what I can do :)
 
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