Where can I learn Magicians choice???(card force)
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Pretty sure Card College Volume 1 teaches this force (known as the Classic Force). I'd take a look into both Card College 1 & 2 as it covers a ton of what you are asking for. Hope this helps!
Magician's choice, or Equivoque if you want to be fancy, is not really a card force. It's more of a way of interpreting peoples words and actions in order to make it look like they have a free choice, but really lead them to make the decision you want.
Going by the numerous posts you have made over the last week or so, it is clear you're a beginner. If so, you should really pick up 'Mark Wilson's Complete Course'. It covers just about everything a beginner needs to know, including mental magic techniques such as Magician's Choice.
A more modern alternative: 'Joshua Jay's Complete Course'. I've been in magic 20+ years and I just bought it the other and still got some good ideas from it. It even comes with a DVD.
Also, Penguin Magic have a free 'beginners' download on their site with lots of great tricks on it. One of them involves Magician's Choice and Oz Pearlman does a great job of explaining it.
All three of those sources are readily available and cheap. They will all help you with Magician's Choice and so much more.
Enjoy!
Rev
Going by the numerous posts you have made over the last week or so, it is clear you're a beginner. If so, you should really pick up 'Mark Wilson's Complete Course'. It covers just about everything a beginner needs to know, including mental magic techniques such as Magician's Choice.
A more modern alternative: 'Joshua Jay's Complete Course'. I've been in magic 20+ years and I just bought it the other and still got some good ideas from it. It even comes with a DVD.
Also, Penguin Magic have a free 'beginners' download on their site with lots of great tricks on it. One of them involves Magician's Choice and Oz Pearlman does a great job of explaining it.
All three of those sources are readily available and cheap. They will all help you with Magician's Choice and so much more.
Enjoy!
Rev
Having just seen this, if it is in fact The Classic Force you want to learn then Casey is spot on. 'Card College' is the way to go. It's also in 'Royal Road to Card Magic', but you've mentioned previously that English is not you first language, so the somewhat archaic writing style might be a bit difficult for you.
I'd go with Card College.
I'd also still get what I recommended above. None of them cover the Classic Force but they are all still great resources for a beginner.
Rev
This is straight from Wikipedia if this helps any:
"Equivocation is a verbal technique by which a magician appears to have a particular outcome, when in actuality the outcome is one of several alternatives. "In essence equivoque is the process of psychological forcing combined with double entendre."[1]
Magician's Choice
In a typical example of the Magician's Choice, the magician will ask a spectator to make an apparently free choice among several items. No matter what choices the spectator makes, the magician verbally forces the item which he wanted the spectator to choose.
In a simple example, the performer may deal two cards face down onto the table, requiring for the purposes of his trick that the card on the right be selected. He will ask the spectator to point to one of the cards. If the spectator chooses the card on the left, the performer will say something like "you keep this card, I'll take the remaining card." If the spectator chooses the card on the right, the performer might say "okay, let's use the card you chose." Thus, the choice of which card to use is really made by the magician, hence the term "Magician's Choice."
These basic techniques can be expanded to include practically any number of items, such as an entire deck of cards. For larger sets, items may first be grouped, then split up. The magician must quickly and carefully craft his patter to convey the impression that the actions he takes with the items truly reflect the intent of the spectator."
"Equivocation is a verbal technique by which a magician appears to have a particular outcome, when in actuality the outcome is one of several alternatives. "In essence equivoque is the process of psychological forcing combined with double entendre."[1]
Magician's Choice
In a typical example of the Magician's Choice, the magician will ask a spectator to make an apparently free choice among several items. No matter what choices the spectator makes, the magician verbally forces the item which he wanted the spectator to choose.
In a simple example, the performer may deal two cards face down onto the table, requiring for the purposes of his trick that the card on the right be selected. He will ask the spectator to point to one of the cards. If the spectator chooses the card on the left, the performer will say something like "you keep this card, I'll take the remaining card." If the spectator chooses the card on the right, the performer might say "okay, let's use the card you chose." Thus, the choice of which card to use is really made by the magician, hence the term "Magician's Choice."
These basic techniques can be expanded to include practically any number of items, such as an entire deck of cards. For larger sets, items may first be grouped, then split up. The magician must quickly and carefully craft his patter to convey the impression that the actions he takes with the items truly reflect the intent of the spectator."
To be honest I blanked and completely forgot that the magician's choice is essentially equivoque. Ignore my first response, as I don't think that's what you were talking about at all. I went off the assumption that you were into card magic from previous posts. My bad! Rev and Gabriel gave you some solid advice and options on where to learn it properly.
I only do card magic, but I still feel it benefits my magic education to study other areas as well. I think this is good advice for everyone. By all means specialise, but when your a beginner it's good to get a nice broad foundation.
Rev
I agree that magicians and mentalists sort of 'cross-train' in each other's fields a bit.
More knowledge in that area can only help and add some valuable tools in your 'toolbox'.
Once I can afford it, I'm going to get some Max Maven DVDs. At least, when I think of the subject, he is the 'go to' that stands out in my mind.
More knowledge in that area can only help and add some valuable tools in your 'toolbox'.
Once I can afford it, I'm going to get some Max Maven DVDs. At least, when I think of the subject, he is the 'go to' that stands out in my mind.
Rev nailed the answer with Mark Wilson's Complete Course. Great source for the basics of equivoque. There are a lot of card routines that use equivoque (won't name them because it exposes the method). If you want to force a single card from a deck, Rich Ferguson has a routine called Deck Equivoque on his This is Mentalism video.
The problem with equivoque is that often times it seems forced because of the language used. It is easy to force a color and suite, but forcing the number is much more difficult. The best equivoque involves three choices and the best routines make the outcome of those choices seem natural.
That being said, there are much better ways of forcing a card. Heck, Annemann came up with 202 ways. Actually, I'd prefer any force in RRTCM over equivoque.
The problem with equivoque is that often times it seems forced because of the language used. It is easy to force a color and suite, but forcing the number is much more difficult. The best equivoque involves three choices and the best routines make the outcome of those choices seem natural.
That being said, there are much better ways of forcing a card. Heck, Annemann came up with 202 ways. Actually, I'd prefer any force in RRTCM over equivoque.
As far as beginners mentalism/mental magic goes, you can't go wrong with Max Maven! His book 'Prism' is one of my favourites.
The other option is Richard Osterlind. His style is very different to Maven's. To me he comes across less 'theatrical' than Maven (just compare their appearances!) but it means his style is very natural and (IMO) more believable. I very much prefer his performance style to Maven's. Material wise though their pretty even.
Rev
Check out the reviews of WTF ACAAN on the Magic Cafe. It was pretty much trashed because the method was too limited and wouldn't work well except under the best conditions. It seems that the video just showed "perfect" conditions that don't exist in the real world. That backs up what I said above -- using equivoque to pick a card from a full deck is not practical.
There are no sure-fire forces of a face up card. It doesn't exist.
Yes, I believe there is a slight difference in definition between the both of them. Even though magicians often use them interchangeably , there is that slight difference that in my eyes means all the world. I leave it to you to do the research and make the decision of weather they are the same or if they are two totally different thing(which they aren't)
Select a card. Ok, trash it. Another. Trash it. Another. Trash it. [Repeat ten to fifty-two times.] Another. That's your card.
You mean this doesn't work? ;-)
Was trying to get queen of spades....4 acaan. I started by saying,“which cards do tou find interesting??Picture cards or number cards” and that fellow said, “well ...number cards”
I like the 'demeaning force'
'You picked the 4 of hearts?...Mmmm. That sucks. That pick was awful. I think you really wanted the 9 of clubs.'
So here you follow up with, "Good. Number cards are the most interesting, and for that reason, we throw them all out. Let's work with the mundane."