I have a set of 'Cups and Balls' and a 'Chop Cup' that match, exactly, at least in appearance. They are copper cups and the balls are red cloth balls. Again they match exactly, in appearance. As I work with these two routines, it became obvious that I can combine theses tricks together and create and unlimited number of different presentations....none of which I have ever seen done...I have started working with this idea, but I wonder if anyone knows of someone who is already doing this? I love to see someone doing a routine like this!