Does this exist?

[darosa.justin]

I am wondering whether an effect like this exists:

The spectator chooses a card and signs it. Card is shuffled back into the deck, and the deck is shown to be put in the card box. The magician shakes the card box and everyone can heard the deck fade away unitl one card remains (which can be heard by the shaking). The box is opened and the spectator takes out their signed card, with the deck gone.

Does this exist? It seems like a DAMN good trick, so please could you tell me if a method for this effect has been published? Thanks

 

[Glenn West]

That does sound good, mind you, there have been a few vanishing deck to selection effects before.

Take a look at Exit 51.

 

[darosa.justin]

hey thanks!

I heard of Exit 51 before, just never knew what is was. It looks really cool, but I can't find a demo for it...

Any other simialr effects out there!?

 

[Glenn West]

Here ya go, first link when googling "Exit 51 magic"

http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/product.php?productid=6931

 

[Glenn West]

Never mind, their video's not working, lol.

 

[Glenn West]

Basically, it is an adaptation of Paul Harris' Vanishing Deck idea, with a hand made gimmick, allowing the final card to the chosen signed card.

Also, you could look at Aaron Fisher's One Deck Shoe. Yes, it is a variation of the old black box vanishing deck thingy, but a damned good one that actually makes the props make sense, and ends with a chosen card after the rest of the deck vanishes.

 

[JKDragoon]

Haven't heard from you in ages...!
Looks like you've been up-ing your ambitious card routine since the last time I saw it on YouTube!
I'll assume that what you're trying to get at is a good 'closer' for an ACR. I've heard of a quite a few deck vanishes that leave the signed card remaining, but none that involves the box. 'Exit 51' doesn't seem to involve the card box, from the pictures anyway. The deck does vanish, leaving the chosen signed card... But you could just as easily accomplish that with any simple deck vanish and some good misdirection. One tech that I'm quite fond of (but haven't had the daring to try) is a series of card-to-pocket productions followed by a deck vanish, as taught in "The Heckler" by Brian Tudor.
You could also do a 'raise-rise' idea, whereby you 'show' the spectator how you get the card to the top with some quick movements... Or try Daniel Garcia's "Fallen" (The trick was below my expectations... I personally would use a variation of 'raise-rise' that was taught to me by Dynamo).

 

[Shodan]

John Guastaferro has some interesting thoughts on the deck vanishing in the box idea in his "Second Storm" lecture notes.

 

[darosa.justin]

Haven't heard from you in ages...!
Looks like you've been up-ing your ambitious card routine since the last time I saw it on YouTube!
I'll assume that what you're trying to get at is a good 'closer' for an ACR. I've heard of a quite a few deck vanishes that leave the signed card remaining, but none that involves the box. 'Exit 51' doesn't seem to involve the card box, from the pictures anyway. The deck does vanish, leaving the chosen signed card... But you could just as easily accomplish that with any simple deck vanish and some good misdirection. One tech that I'm quite fond of (but haven't had the daring to try) is a series of card-to-pocket productions followed by a deck vanish, as taught in "The Heckler" by Brian Tudor.
You could also do a 'raise-rise' idea, whereby you 'show' the spectator how you get the card to the top with some quick movements... Or try Daniel Garcia's "Fallen" (The trick was below my expectations... I personally would use a variation of 'raise-rise' that was taught to me by Dynamo).

Sorry, are you talking about me, or Glen? (ABout the ACR youtube thingy)

Is that card to pocket production thing by Brian Tudor the one where more and more cards seem to be jumping into your pocket as you are continuosly pull them out.?

What good (sleight of hand) deck vanishes are there out there?

And yeah, about the deck vanish with the cards box, it's something I'm thinking of. I wanted to know if I need to spend some time devising a method for this trick. If I do, I'll let ya'll know and ask for feedback.

 

[darosa.justin]

Basically, it is an adaptation of Paul Harris' Vanishing Deck idea, with a hand made gimmick, allowing the final card to the chosen signed card.

Also, you could look at Aaron Fisher's One Deck Shoe. Yes, it is a variation of the old black box vanishing deck thingy, but a damned good one that actually makes the props make sense, and ends with a chosen card after the rest of the deck vanishes.

I checked this out on his site. It's called "Cruel Shoes" on there. Its a really awesome effect, and I can somewhat imagine me performing this. I just want to know if everything is examiable, or what can be/can't be.

ALso, it'd be kind of weird whipping out a shoe from a casino. But I could alwasys make some sutff up, so its all good!

 

[JKDragoon]

Sorry, are you talking about me, or Glen? (ABout the ACR youtube thingy)

Is that card to pocket production thing by Brian Tudor the one where more and more cards seem to be jumping into your pocket as you are continuosly pull them out.?

What good (sleight of hand) deck vanishes are there out there?

And yeah, about the deck vanish with the cards box, it's something I'm thinking of. I wanted to know if I need to spend some time devising a method for this trick. If I do, I'll let ya'll know and ask for feedback.

Yeah, I was referring to you... Unless you've forgotten about me and Jesse? Hope things are doing aight back in SIS! (I hope you are who I THINK you are... XD)
Tudor's Pocket thing doesn't happen a lot of times... And it's from different pockets... The spectator will be so busy trying to keep up that they won't be able to work out how it's done... And the deck vanish is a great finisher for that particular section of the trick... XD

There are tons of deck vanishes out there... Seriously... But all require some misdirection. A lot of them will involve a ditch, either in a certain grip (i.e. Gambler's Cop) or plain, old, in-your-face "Look at this card WAY OVER TO MY RIGHT" as you dump the cards in your left pocket kinda thing. Deck switches are far more complicated... Misdirection is the key to deck vanishing... I highly doubt a deck vanish without misdirection (that ISN'T GIMMICKED!)

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JK

 

[dummyisdumb]

Stop double/triple posting.

 

[darosa.justin]

Stop double/triple posting.

What?

OH JK!! HEY dude! How you been? Pretty cool I met you HERE!

Very interesting, where can I learn deck vanishes (that use sleight of hand, misdirection, etc.?

I'm interested in Exit 51 by Ben Harris, and Cruel Shoes by Aaron Fisher. Are there any more?

Nice to see ya JK!

 

[Brad Henderson]

Scotty York used to place the deck into the box and then bring out a razor blade. He claimed he could place the blade right next to their card, "The 4 of diamonds." He slid the blade into the deck triumphantly, and the spectator let him know that wasn't his card.

Scotty would shake the box, causing the blade to "magically travel through the deck" and move to their selected card.

He would then open the box and dump out a deck that had been sliced into pieces - except for one card - their card.

This plot gives the trick drama. The ending is a surprise, bit a logical and motivated one.

 

[darosa.justin]

Again, another pretty good sounding trick. But I dont want to be whipping out a knife to perform everytime, and having 51 cards cut to pieces. The trick doesn't really sound like the thing I'm looknig for, bu thanks a lot for the suggestion!

 

[JKDragoon]

What?

OH JK!! HEY dude! How you been? Pretty cool I met you HERE!

Very interesting, where can I learn deck vanishes (that use sleight of hand, misdirection, etc.?

I'm interested in Exit 51 by Ben Harris, and Cruel Shoes by Aaron Fisher. Are there any more?

Nice to see ya JK!

Hahahahah... I only just found out about Theory11 from D. Madison's website.
You could try the hefty "Revolutionary Card Technique" by Ed Marlo... It's like UK$40 over here, but it's equivalent to about 5 different books all-in-one that includes a MULTITUDE of Gambling Techniques, inc. ways of deck-swaps. I have to warn you though, it's not for the feint hearted and it's only good if you're seriously interested in going down a path of Card Magic for life.
I'm not quite sure if there's a single book/DVD that teaches solely Deck Vanishes, because it really is quite a simple technique as long as you have the right misdirection.

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JK

 

[darosa.justin]

I'm not so much into the gambling/cheat thing. I odnt want to be spend 40 quid on soemthing that I probably don't really have a use for.

Where can I learn the 'Simple Technique' of deck vanishing then?

 

[Glenn West]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSxQcmGqdPE

Masuda's Ambelitious Card.

Almost identical to Exit 51.

 

[Glenn West]

Scotty York used to place the deck into the box and then bring out a razor blade. He claimed he could place the blade right next to their card, "The 4 of diamonds." He slid the blade into the deck triumphantly, and the spectator let him know that wasn't his card.

Scotty would shake the box, causing the blade to "magically travel through the deck" and move to their selected card.

He would then open the box and dump out a deck that had been sliced into pieces - except for one card - their card.

This plot gives the trick drama. The ending is a surprise, bit a logical and motivated one.

This is taught on Ammar's Topit video(s). Did this originate with York, or Ammar? I haven't watched that vid in a while, so i don't remember if ammar mentions York or not.

 

[Brad Henderson]

Went to the shelves and pulled out the original Topit book. Ammar talks about his deck switch claiming the best application to be "Scotty York's version of Himber's Razored Deck."

I did a little digging and found out the proper name is "Richard Himber's Big Trick." It was being sold in 1956. It was $30. A LOT of money back then.

There you go,

Brad Henderson