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I think its an awsome idea... you could also, at the end of the magic-zine you could have some basic link things to were you can learn basic sleight of hand, (card collage, modern coin magic, rrtcm)? or is that a silly idea?

well I know a rising card thats impromputu so ill pm you squ!rrel to see if its the same method (sp.) thanks

so its just sleight of hand? thanks for the reply, im only really looking for a haunted deck without loops or magnets.

do you use any thing (sorry if im "fishing" but I dont want use any gaffs/gimmicks/stuff)

hi in motion do you damage any cards?

XB (xtreme beginers), is all about xcm (xtreme card manipulation), and on the dvd it has a one hour fanning workshop with one of the best fanners in the world, that should help ya do some giant fans, ;)

most of my post wasn't for you (you seem to actually discuss it), I dont want to argue either, thats why im (trying) not to take sides so much, okay, I let you off, you havnt got anything better to do (lol).

please, just accept that beginers will use it, there is know way whatsoever (sp.) you are helping THEM, its a card control, it fooled me (im not trying to say im awsome at magic, im not, but it still fooled me), which to ME seems like its worth it. $5, thats £2.50 okay, its not expensive. Im not...

exactly, now can we please close this thread because there isnt really a reason for it any more, is there?

there are lots of ways to control a card, maybe we should just let them use this one AND pay for it. It is THERE choice, and complaing (sp.) that you can just go on youtube is pointless, because they may go on youtube anyway, maybe they want a good magician, teach them a usefull move well, in...

they just want to argue, and their exuse is that you can go on youtube and learn it, the same thing could be... no! dont realese 5 speed, you can go on youtube or where ever and learn it for free! but they seem to have forgoten (sp.) all about those other 1 on 1s they loved but its still not...

ya know when I first saw the video I was fooled by it, Ive been in magic for 5/6 months so please dont say im a total beginer... if I wasnt a magician I would be very fooled, so dont start saying its rubbish, and also let the beginer (sp.) have the choise (sp.), you all seemed to have ignored...

I would say maybe leave some of the flashy/ hard stuff for a bit, if you concentrate (sp.) on stuff like royal road to card magic or something that should be good, also the card fundementals (sp.) are supposed to be very good and not boring, so maybe you could perfect double lifts etc etc, and...

I agree... with everything but I think the only way we can help anyone right now is to actually help them (yes it sounds stupid but its true)... if someone asks ANOTHER question of what should I get next, and then lists some things they had in mind... dont tell them to stop all these threads...

sorry, a bit of topic.... but watch "ace cut" then read what joels favorite effect is on his artist page.... (ironic?)

yep why doesnt anyone here actually buy it, and actually make and honest, unbiased, review... and yes you may be able to see it on youtube, but even then, you dont have joel teach it to you... (no much of an argument I know) if T11 actually did copy this of one of there members, that is wrong.

if thats true then that is pretty bad of T11 to copy someone elses work

yep...................... (even though im sure some of you are better than a T11 artist, (no sarcasm))

http://forums.theory11.com/showthread.php?p=124509#post124509 well heres the review. kinda takes away from the agument a bit doesnt it (sorry for all the spelling mistakes)

but but but they want a GOOD 1 on 1, by aaron fisher, chris kenner, dan and dave, wayne houchin etc etc... (sarcasm???) well, there are already so many "hard" 1 on 1s that all you extremely talented card and coin guys could just go and buy them, and if you actually practice them for a month or...