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Funny that you mention it, some months ago I began a little talk with you via PM ( Wich I had to make public because you stop bothering), talking about the really bad state in wich the forums were (and are) at the moment. You showed some interest at the beggining but then you just decided...

I speak klingon. Nuff' said.

Why everytime I quote Jbayme my post gets deleted? Unfair.

I must say, Card magic and Mentalist are different ballparks ;)

(Long read, be warned) Magic or trickery? Jesus, Have I seen this debate to death? A lot of magicians defend the thought of "use theater! sell your effects as real magic!" while other hang to the thought of "Tell them is sleight of hand and let them marvel at your skill, they are not dumb...

I'm not generalising here( well yeah I am doing it) but how many of us REALLY post? by that I mean, how many of us really try to discuss intelligent topics? The thing about rep, is that it would give every forum member here a biased view, as I said, I myself would have troubles, or people...

Then I wouldn't be able to post as much as I do. A lot of people here dislike me and they would only "unrep" me for the sake of it.

Nevermind....

And we are discussing this "problem" you said you had. It would help a lot to the thread if you explain the way in wich you performed (because Im believing that you changed it) so that we can see the flaws and try to fix it, in order to (as you say) fix those problems or locate them.

Heckle, screw or mess up with your trick. I'm using the word "heckle" in that context.

It was an example, but my point still stands. I don't think that the general public "enjoy" magic in that way. And yet it is our responsability, if they are fealing jealous is our fault, because we are presenting magic in a way that makes them feel that way.

Jus a quick note, it's not them, have you considered that maybe it is you? Could you share with us the way you present your magic to people? Because maybe there is where the problem lies. I'll be sincere, it's really rare when somebody it's trying to mess up with me and I think I know why...

Chad nelson has a very good inversion routine in his "Surfaced" dvd. I use it all the time :). It is somewhat knuckle busting, but it is a real world routine, you see him perform it for live audiences on the dvd. Im sure I recorded myself performing it elsewhere...

My english has not been that good this past couple of days ;)

I don't need your sarcasm sir, I was adressing that part of your post.

I believe in your point, but I also believe that you are overestimating us. Outside the forums we rarely speak using our avatars, anyone that has speaked with me outside the forums knows my real name, and rarely I have seen someone that doesn't wants to give his. I leave my avatar where...

:mad: (grumpy word count)

I totally agree, of course I'm not that dumb and whenever I need to send a email to either Aaron fisher or some friend, I sign it with my real name.(for reasons explained above) But that's actually it, we have avatars on internet for security reasons, and as steerpike pointed, I wouldn't...

Happy birthday!!!

Nope. A lot of effects can sound great on paper, but once you see the performance of said tricks, the description is far from the reality. Just a thought...