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Wow - Tumbleweed, I expect you know me better through this forum. David Williamson used to call them the lay-bastards - and just like him - the word "enemy" is tongue in cheek. We are at a mental "war" (again, not a real war but a battle of the thinkers) when we are out to FOOL someone...

OH FOR SURE KATIE - Tommy Wonder! I have seen David Williamson many times...but twice in one week - SPOILED Katie, spoiled! Where was it that you saw him? He never fails to make me want to be more - I have tried to be like him with my magic since day 1...I wish he had more than one book.

Haha - sorry William - I didn't realize you started this post - your comment seems less sarcastic - admittedly, I don't take much time to read insignificant popular opinion threads. My bad. Leaving through the door you placed my sarcasm. Cheers.

Oh, I don't know how - but I forgot Brian Roberts

Ummm...thanks - So I guesss it is Ricky Jay and David Williamson - which I still think are stand outs amongst the rest. Thanks for your correction - because what would have happened if somebody missed a few names on a long list. Wow - I am so glad people like you are there William.

I am constantly amused by the amount of "fluff" answers found in threads like this. This question sees more action than a porn star, with about as much intelligence behind it. It reminds me of the obtuse thinking behind, "Are we artists". So a few schools of thought: First school - we...

Please read this: I find it funny that magicians dismiss exposing key cards - when I am CERTAIN I could fool every single person in this forum with a key card trick. Teaching effects to people is a very dangerous concept - what do we reveal. Thing of it this way - remember the old trick...

Sorry to hear that MagicShadow9 - if you look at the date of the first post, you realize this post has been up for close to a year now - so, trying to read them all in one sitting could be daunting. It is too bad - as there is much merit in this thread. Oh well, intelligent thinking and...

Are you kidding me...How are David Williamson & Ricky Jay not on the list? Please! On the list - John Carney, Mac King, Amazing Jonathon, Johnny Thompson, Penn and Teller, Bill Malone and Mullica...maybe not in that order. However, I would STILL take the guys on my list, over any guy in...

Wow - many of the heavies of our forum in this thread, nice to see. Interesting topic for sure. Perhaps I am off base here, but I think the saying, "it is not my style" - is another way of saying, "that effect doesn't come close to the standards of magic I want, or the message I want to give...

Hey Cliff - really sorry about the first name error...perhaps I was distracted by your interesting last name. Anyhow, thanks for the reply - I will try to keep my response short, as I am not trying to prove you wrong, but help you see that there is a mental process the audience goes...

Was looking through some posts and saw your signature - I am flattered, especially from a talented magician like yourself. You should certainly add your name to your list, if it weren't seen overly ego driven, haha. In short, thank you mate - you are as equally a great person as you are a...

Hey Cliff, Interesting idea - a few things in concept. When you vanish the cards - I as a magician understand that you aren't using dups, but I am concerned that someone would want to see under the 10 of hearts after the first change to the 3 of clubs, to verify that you weren't using an...

Ozzymagic, let me say this - it is late, so I will do my best to have some tact and take into consideration that I was nice enough to read your post, although you admittedly did not read mine...I hope you at least read the first - you would realize that what I said is not off topic, but a...

I think the best use of a psychological force is, "these are not the droids you're looking for" - or the Darren Brown mental force of the 3 of diamonds.

I understand, but realize that sometimes inexperience can be a strength, as you are not yet polluted by your learnt thoughts, so may come up with something that someone with more experience would overlook. It is a hard subject though, which is why I brought it to the group. Continue to think...

Sin, I actually did post many things that were solutions, and had good conversations, but removed it after awhile - some of the solutions were alluded to by reading others posts. My first post was to get the idea out there - coin magic has issues - okay, so it does, now what? Now -...

I appreciate the effort, and I think once you read my first post - you will have a better sense at what I am getting at. This thread is overwhelming...even being part of it.

Yeah Matt - I meant better than what I have seen you do in the past, better than most...overall, just plain better. You are very welcome, glad my praise is appreciated, as seeing good magic is equally apprecaited by me, and I am sure the members.

I am glad that this topic is becoming a hot button again. First, let me state again - the "coin magic sucks" is not an exact translation, as I do continue on to say - it doesn't suck - but it does have a large number of inherent issues that I believe can be overcome. I HIGHLY recommend...