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I've had the same experience with mine. They just don't seem to fan very good at all. They are beautiful though and I love the symbols in the designs. I've got a Tally Ho viper deck that is very used and still fans like a champ.

This is the revenge I was referring to. Exactly what is it you hope to accomplish by contacting the BBB? Should Jay be punished? shut down? fined? forced to sit in a room with all you guys for 20 minutes? what is your goal here? perhaps it strokes that tattle tale side of your psyche that...

I believe that those who have set the tone of attack and revenge against Jay are the ones who have "the whole thing wrong here". I paid attention the the entire BABOM promotion and I have followed this whiner fest very closely as well. My BABOM was missing some things from the list too, but...

"So we're going to have approx 120 of the BIG ASS BOXES!" So it seems like the underlying issue in this matter is that Jay didn't live up to his promise of 120 big ass boxes. Instead, he put together over 200 so he could satisfy more customers. So those of you who have a problem and are...

I've never heard the law of supply and demand separated into the law of supply and the law of demand. Interesting. Secondly, your missing my sarcasm is frankly laughable. But thanks for explaining my sarcastic reply in literal terms for everybody. So on one hand, you are agreeing with me that...

So in your mind, bro, I don't have the "right" to share my opinion and make a suggestions? But you do have the right to loosely use adjectives as you please to enforce your position? might have been a stretch? you meant was a stretch. I am just fascinated by the way you guys are so certain...

"incontrovertible evidence"- more detail please- without the thesaurus this time...

Well sir, you have just told us your position is based on hearsay and not your actual experience. I can tell you that I have done business with Sankey and have had many communications with their customer service department. I have nothing but positive things to say. and based on the fact...

You misunderstand the law of supply and demand as it relates to this product/industry. Just think how cheap slyders would be if we made em by the millions!! we could sell em for $3 and then have a warehouse full of them for years to come!

"But the point is, there was a list of things that were going to be included into the box" I saw and referred to this list many times. I never recall it saying "every big ass box of magic will contain" at the top of the list. I do recall Jay saying something in the videos about some of the...

Is refunding the complainers money not addressing their complaints?

Not if I got more than what I paid for. and if not, I would be ticked only if I didn't get my money back after returning the product....

Again- I am not Jay but I am amused by you guys imaginations. I live in Western North Carolina, I am 35 and I have been tinkering with magic since I was a kid. I've known about Jay for the last year or two and have made several purchases from his website. Jay's declining image- please...

Making an analogy regarding peoples behavior is not name calling. An example of name calling would be the "Jay Scamkey" moniker that was coined on this forum I believe.

Again, I did get a BABOM, it didn't have everything on the list, I don't recall being promised anything other than $500 worth of magic which everybody got, and I honestly believe Jay went to every effort to satisfy those customers who have the ability to be satisfied. From what I can tell...

So you are saying that you hold me responsible for how others respond to my posts? But you can't give me an example of what I've said that is an attack? Why can't any of you guys just admit you are acting like a spoiled kid on Christmas Morning?

Again, please be more specific when you say "attack some of the contributors". Disagreement is not an attack my friend.

awesome........for you to accuse me of ad hominem arguments when this entire forum was created to attack Jay Sankey is as hilarious as it is preposterous.....I hope you guys start one about me! I once got a negative feedback on eBay so I am obviously a dirty rotten crooked lying thief too...

I got it now. I am still not convinced that any false advertising or fraud has occurred here. and comparing this to buying a 30,000 and getting a 28,000 sedan is a bit of a stretch- would you agree? My god people- Sell the stuff and make a profit for goodness sakes. You got the stuff for...

Please be more specific as to what I have said that is not civil? "take us "south" It sounds like you are saying that I am responsible for the tone in posts that are in response to mine? Would you prefer your gripe forum not be interrupted by those who don't agree with you?