A new age is upon us...

Dylan P.

Dylan P.

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A new age is upon us. It is an age were magic is being performed on the streets instead of theaters. Stage magic has become endangered and overtaken by new artists like criss angel and Blaine.
these artists are good but what about the people who were here first. Dai vernon, hugard Braue, Mark Wilson, Harry Houdini, or Harry Blackstone Jr. They deserve to be honered.

Not only is it a new age of magic, but a new age of technology as well. There is a fully functioning internest in about 75% of homes. Websites like youtube and Google are up and running. T.V.'s now broadcast in HD.

But, my point to you, gentleman and ladies, is that although the future brings great new concepts and ideas, it brings with it easier ways of being exposed.
Youtube reveals tricks everyday that any layman can see if he wanted to. And google has pages revealing tricks. The masked magician reveals classic magic tricks on TV. THIS MUST BE STOPPED!!!

As magicians we must band together and stop this.And, if we can not stop it then at least let us try. We must stand proud and try to fight back.

If you can then send emails to youtube and report any of their videos were they expose something or you can see how it is done. This may possibly open their eyes. Also do not post on youtube or google unless you havce watched it to make surre you have exposed nothing. This is our first order of buisness.

A new age is upun us. And it is time to take a stand and fight for what we love to do. I only have one question...

WHO'S WITH ME?
 
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magicpowder

Oct 19, 2007
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ummmmm this thread is stupid............ im srry but criss angel has a stage show all the time how do u think he got famous? from stage magic. it not like no ones not preforming stage effects anymore soooooo yea this is useless
 
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hijackedmagic

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Dylan P. said:
A new age is upon us. It is an age were magic is being performed on the streets instead of theaters. Stage magic has become endangered and overtaken by new artists like criss angel and Blaine.
these artists are good but what about the people who were here first. Dai vernon, hugard Braue, Mark Wilson, Harry Houdini, or Harry Blackstone Jr. They deserve to be honered.

Not only is it a new age of magic, but a new age of technology as well. There is a fully functioning internest in about 75% of homes. Websites like youtube and Google are up and running. T.V.'s now broadcast in HD.

But, my point to you, gentleman and ladies, is that although the future brings great new concepts and ideas, it brings with it easier ways of being exposed.
Youtube reveals tricks everyday that any layman can see if he wanted to. And google has pages revealing tricks. The masked magician reveals classic magic tricks on TV. THIS MUST BE STOPPED!!!

As magicians we must band together and stop this.And, if we can not stop it then at least let us try. We must stand proud and try to fight back.

If you can then send emails to youtube and report any of their videos were they expose something or you can see how it is done. This may possibly open their eyes. Also do not post on youtube or google unless you havce watched it to make surre you have exposed nothing. This is our first order of buisness.

A new age is upun us. And it is time to take a stand and fight for what we love to do. I only have one question...

WHO'S WITH ME?
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i see your point, however, there are still many performing stage magicians. i think youtube and google shouldn't reveal classic art. stupid tricks that nobody uses, reveal those. i don't care. but when people like the masked magician reveal classic stage magic, it's just wrong. i think we're honoring the magicians that came first by carrying on their art. how we do it, that's up to us. so, i guess i partially agree with you.
 
Dylan P.

Dylan P.

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Oh believe me that when I say stage magicians aren;t here anymore I just mean that they are not as common as the late 1800's and not as popular as street magic. And, thanks for really taking the time to think this through and give me a good strong answer.
 
ThrallMind

ThrallMind

Dec 4, 2007
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Yes, Criss did start out as a stage act. Blaine also brought magic into the public eye whose result was making magicians seem less geeky.

While the intent of your post is good, the comment received will not be. The topic of YouTube and exposure being brought down has been discussed may times. It is just not possible.

The best way to top exposure is you, the magician. Yea, that may sound corny, but it's true. People who expose are, in 99% of the cases, not terribly skilled. They may be able to pull off the sleight, but they either copy the original creators patter, or have very poor presentation skills.

There have been cases where someone performed an effect poorly and people weren't impressed. Someone else would then show them the same effect, but with their own patter and presentation, and the same people were now blown away. Exposure isn't the problem.

Heres the secret to get around exposure, gather close...
The only effects becoming hugely exposed are those which are sold by E, T11, and the most advertised of Penguin. I promise if you pick up a book that isn't very publicized on one of these websites, or take a trip to your closest magic store, or even find a local IBM or SAM ring, you will gain so much more knowledge that isn't exposed.

The other thing some new magicians tend to do...is mention the effect name before they perform it. If you say "This is called Torn. Watch," I bet the spectators will have a much easier time finding out how it was done. Not to mention its a well known effect ;)

Just my thoughts.

-ThrallMind
 
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KeenanG

Aug 31, 2007
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I am sorry to burst your bubble, but "street'' magic has been around for hundreds of years.

Street magic is pretty much just strolling magic/walk around magic, on the streets. Which has been done for many a hundreds a years. From buskers to "street" performers, it has been around for a very long time.

New age? Not at all.... Different name, pretty much.


As for the exposure thing, yup, I hate it to. But there is not much you can do on a large scale.

Keenan
 
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CoryOOreo

Sep 1, 2007
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"He who rejects change is the architect of decay."

-Harold Wilson
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In short. I choose not to support you in your cause. To avoid any conflict, I will not post my reasons here. If you are interested in hearing them, please send me a private message.

Peace,

-Cory
 
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Brad Henderson

Dec 14, 2007
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The reason stage magic may seem in a decline is because there aren't very many stages left. Not anywhere compared to the number in the "heyday" of stage magic. People used to go to the theater, then movies, now TV.

When you say Street Magic, I assume you mean magic performed on TV in a street setting. I mean, isn't a camera an essential part of what "street magic" has become?

Of course TV magic will always be more present in today's consumers eyes simply because it reaches so many more than any stage in the world, let alone the country.

Street magic (i.e.) busking as been around for ages and is still going strong, yet it holds hardly anything in common with Angel and Blaine.

I make my living as a magician. I can assure you, the "street magic" as you have come to see on TV is not how my - or any of my peers - make their living. We are all still performing and doing ok, and I don't think the streets will be seeing any of us anytime soon.

Brad

p.s. Hugard/Braue were two people. The latter a newspaper editor I believe.
 
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Chase

Mar 25, 2008
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Cory Landels said:
"He who rejects change is the architect of decay. The only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery."

-Harold Wilson
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Harold Wilson was a socialist who dang near steered the UK onto the rocks. Thank God Thatcher came along and pulled them back to some sanity.

Wilson was a proponent of change for changes sake (or to propel his own wrong headed social agenda), and even though his speeches were elegant I think many of us would look at his career and marvel at the hypocrisy that was so evident from early on.

Steve Martin (yeah. THAT Steve Martin.), while discussing Fitzkee's writing, said that all entertainment, no matter how new, is about to be old fashioned. I believe, in many ways, that's true. Once you've seen something, you've seen it. Now you're on to the next thing.
Congratulations young guys with your street performances and your quick cut flourishes... the clock's ticking. Once you perform it the shelf life starts wearing out. Enjoy your 15 minutes. There's a ten year old somewhere who just discovered how to do a double lift, and he's coming for you.
And he's probably posting on youtube.
 
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