Can the Venom Project by Maggie Factory be used to perform the tricks in Invisible by Damian Savina?

Feb 1, 2017
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Hey people!

I was just wondering something, is it possible to the Venom Project ITR's for the tricks demonstrated in the Invisible trailer on ellusionist.com? Im planning on getting one by christmas, and I really like the Venom, but the levitating ring trick in invisible is pure gold soooo...

Thanks for your help!

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WitchDocIsIn

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Sep 13, 2008
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Yes - with a caveat. You can't really do the Invisible hookup and the Venom hookup at the same time.

Venom is meant to use both reels at the same time. You can use any reel to do the routine in Invisible (which I agree, that's beautiful when done right), so you could use the Venom reel, but it would be a situation where you're set up to do that routine, and if you want to do the routines in Venom, you'd have to go re-setup.

Side note - there's a one-reel floating ring taught in Venom that's pretty sweet as well.
 
Feb 1, 2017
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Oh okay that's pretty sweet... Do you think it's worth getting the Venom project and the Invisible trick tutorials but not the invisible ITR?

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WitchDocIsIn

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If the tutorial is on sale by itself, there's a solid chance it's an illegal copy. The way Invisible is sold is with the reel in the DVD packaging. I'm not sure where you're seeing it on its own, but if the price is significantly less than what you'd see on Ellusionist or similar, it's almost certainly not a legal copy.
 
Feb 1, 2017
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No I havent seen the explaination for sale by itself, but im wondering if I should buy venom AND invisible, so I can have both the invisible and Venom ITRs equipped, so i can perform the individual tricks without having to change setup... Is that possible?

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WitchDocIsIn

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Yes, it's possible. It would be a bit much, in my opinion, but I'm disinclined to walk around fully loaded up in the first place.
 
Feb 1, 2017
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Okay thank you very much! One last thing: The venom ITR clips on to a piece of clothing with a plastic clip, like a clip on a pen right? How does the Invisible ITR clip on? Because I wear a lot of bracelets so it's very easy to hide a clipped ITR to my wrist...

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RickU

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Jun 14, 2013
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Okay thank you very much! One last thing: The venom ITR clips on to a piece of clothing with a plastic clip, like a clip on a pen right? How does the Invisible ITR clip on? Because I wear a lot of bracelets so it's very easy to hide a clipped ITR to my wrist...

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Savinas uses a clip also
 

RickU

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Yes, it's possible. It would be a bit much, in my opinion, but I'm disinclined to walk around fully loaded up in the first place.
I agree

With itr hookups - you generally only want one type “active”

Except loops...loops would be the only other type of hookup
 
Feb 1, 2017
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I agree

With itr hookups - you generally only want one type “active”

Except loops...loops would be the only other type of hookup

Thanks for the help!

And what are loops? I'm new to ITRs, what are loop hookups?

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RickU

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Thanks for the help!

And what are loops? I'm new to ITRs, what are loop hookups?

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Loops are an elastic IT system (extremely cheap) produced by Yigal Mesika and Finn Jonn. If you’re not familiar w Loops then you’re VERY new to IT.

Google Loops - I’m sure you’ll find plenty on info there. But Loops are the only system I know of that won’t interfere with other IT hookups
 
Feb 1, 2017
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Ooooohhh that thing yeah I have seen that before. I see what you mean now. I would see how you could link a Venom and Loops hookup quite easily. I think ive made my decision and I'm going to go for the Venom project. Yet i've heard that the IT that comes with Venom is very visible, is this true? Luckily since Venom is entirely customizable I could change it to something more inconspicuos. Any suggestions so the best thread to buy? Preferably thread that I can buy in a large batch, because I live in Holland so having to order new thread quite regulary could be a pain.

Thanks again,

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