Well, I do know that the right moment for a classic pass is when no one is looking at the deck. RRTCM says the pass should not be done right after the card's been returned to the deck. And I HAVE done the pass irl situations and it did work alright. Now the thing is, as I am practising it more, it is getting more and more unnoticable, my hands are getting relaxed, and all the sort of stuff, which is good. But when I do it, my pinky is quite inside the two packets, SLIGHTLY beyond my pinky's first phalange. And as I said, it works fine, in fact it is how I do it. If I increase the break, the pass become obvious, and if I reduce it, the pass either is quite difficult or makes a lot of noise. The problem is to get that big a break. I mean, usually (like almost all of us) I need the slightest amount of the mere skin of my pinky to do something, say, a double undercut. But how do I extend the tiny pinky break to a giant one? How do I transform my 'usual' pinky break for my 'pass' pinky break? The way I do it now is...I do the pass just after the card has been returned, and as I said, I read and heard I should not do that. But if I keep a giant break from the beginning, it looks suspicious and is noticable. So the million-dollar question... How do I transform my tiny pinky break for a big one (for my classic pass) with no one seeing?