Ok, I spent 7 months on the Erdnase Top Palm First Method. Even though I had a really difficult time learning the move, I continued to try since I kept hearing everybody mentioning how invisible the Erdnase Top Palm is, and that it's the best palm ever. Maybe I'm doing something incorrectly, but I feel like the move takes too long to perform (getting the break and swinging the card specifically) and I feel like the palm is making too much noise. What makes this palm so invisible? How can somebody do this palm in such a short amount of time? Do I need more practice? Am I doing something incorrectly? Somebody please convince me why the Erdnase Top Palm is so amazing and invisible.