Now, hold up. The question might seem redundant to you and maybe you're exasperated, but I couldn't find any actual and more importantly, recent discussion on this topic which by its very nature, needs to come up again and again after certain intervals of time as the world changes and the priorities and styles of the most visible faces of the magic community at large, change. In my opinion, this discussion doesn't aim to change anybody's point of view, instead clarify each of our own perspective. *** Essential definitions:- Art form: "The more or less established structure, pattern, or scheme followed in shaping an artistic work." (dictionary.com) "An unconventional form or medium in which impulses regarded as artistic may be expressed." and "An undertaking or activity enhanced by a high level of skill or refinement." ( merriam-webster.com ) "An activity that someone does very well and gives them the opportunity to show imagination." ( oxfordlearnersdictionary.com ) "Art is a diverse range of human activities involving the creation of visual, auditory or performing artifacts (artworks), which express the creator's imagination, conceptual ideas, or technical skill, intended to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power. Other activities related to the production of works of art include art criticism and the history of art." (wikipedia.org) "The arts refers to the theory, human application and physical expression of creativity found in human cultures and societies through skills and imagination in order to produce objects, environments and experiences." (wikipedia.org) The above definitions aren't to limit the discussion, just provide a broad view of what is art, because as even Wikipedia says, "Though there is no generally agreed definition of what constitutes art, and ideas have changed over time, general descriptions mention an idea of imaginative or technical skill stemming from human agency and creation." To be noted: The above sites often used rap music, comic writing and wine making as examples of an art form inspite of them being pretty niche. Meanwhile, none of them mentioned magic. *** There are two schools of thought, one that says magic is an art form, one that says magic isn't an art form, and one extra lenient school which thinks that magic isn't naturally an art form but could be made into one. The question is simple, Do you think magic is an art form? If yes, why? If no, why not? Please reply because I'd love to have a discussion on this because I think magic is an art form and I'm curious as to what others on these forums think.