JERRY's on eBay... Real or Fake?

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They are a trustworth seller (100% buyer feedback) but Jerries are overrated.

I don't own them, but anyone I have ever talked to that has Jerries all tell me that they are very overrated.

Its just hype because they are no longer available and Dan and Dave use them.:p

Unless you are a serious card collector, you would just be better off getting a brick of S&M if you want fancy looking cards. :D

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what are you talking about it says right there on the description that they are real?
 

baller08

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LOL....the fact that A PACK OF CARDS can cause people to pay that much money and droll over it shows how gullible people can be. How a little media and marketing can get anyone to pay anything, no matter how void of logic it is.

The people that are willing to pay and chase A PACK OF CARDS are those that con men make a living off of.
 
LOL....the fact that A PACK OF CARDS can cause people to pay that much money and droll over it shows how gullible people can be. How a little media and marketing can get anyone to pay anything, no matter how void of logic it is.

The people that are willing to pay and chase A PACK OF CARDS are those that con men make a living off of.

thanks for your opinion.

Some people enjoy collecting rare items, a hobby if you will, and get great pleasure from it. So, To each their own.

Looks legit... The "Tear in the cellophane" may bother me though... unless you plan on opening them
 
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baller08 is narrow minded - his opinion comes from not understanding perceived value and supply and demand increasing value. Is the deck worth 150 bucks or more...well - is a picture of a painting worth more than the paint...how about a GI Joe action doll? A Gretsky or Jordan rookie card worth more than the paper it is printed on? The answer is yes - for the right person.

Doug - these cards were popular WAY before Dan and Dave - I am not sure they are overrated, as I have ALWAYS wanted a deck that others didn't have. Ever go to a convention and sit around a table with a large group...they all have Bike's red or blue...and you get that...WHICH DECK IS MINE....is this your box? I hated that - so having a deck that is very rare is great for when you are jamming - not to mention the status of being able to use decks worth 150 bucks.

When I played basketball in college - you could tell how serious a guy was by his runners...I always wore Jordan's - because any guy that spent 400 bucks on shoes was making a statement he had to back up. If you met a guy with Five Stars from Wal~Mart...he was making a statement too...this is how I see cards. Just like skateboarders buy Tony Hawk decks...and athletes buy Jersey's - I buy decks.

Honestly I bet baller08 even own a pack or has ever handled one...I do...actually, thanks to Lee - I own a few. I was playing with a deck today - they do handle nice, I like both the red and the blue (they look rich) and the deck is becoming very hard to get...which adds to the value - rare things are expensive!

Will owning a deck make your magic better? NOPE

Do they handle so well that NO other deck will do? NOPE

However - why buy any novelty deck on this site or others - well, to be different, status, collect...many reasons.

That being said - I only use red bike's for performance - blue for friends and practice...and novelty decks around magicians and for collecting.

Good luck getting your hands on a deck! Only you can decide if it's worth it!
 

baller08

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Oh please...spare me the "making a statement" bs and "what is a painting worth" weak argument.

Most people want these cards because they're weak minded...they see others talk about it and value it so they do too. Your analogy about Jordans on the court is a good one, except the fact that most players that wear $300 shoes have $1 moves.

If you want to spend stupid money on ridiculous things, then just come out and say that you just want the bragging rights of owning something that's no longer made. At least I can respect that. But to try to justify it by saying you're "making a statement" or suggesting that it's because you didn't like when you can't tell which deck is yours during some convention is simply weak.

You know who some of you guys remind me of? About 5 or 6 years ago, Krispie Kreme donuts only existed in the East Coast. When they opened one in the West Coast near where I lived, during opening day, people lined up for 3 hours for a couple of free donuts.

No donut is worth a 3 hour wait. No deck of cards is worth $150. It's not that the donuts taste so good or the cards feel so great. It's nothing more than weak minded people who like something because marketing says they should.
 
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Baller08 - I think we are saying the same thing - but a little different...you think it's stupid, I think it exits in LIFE - so deal with it. My point is this - Jerry's decks aren't "WORTH" 150 dollars, but they ARE - let me explain, it reminds me of a story. This guy is travelling through a village and on the outskirts of town - he sees a pot for $10.00...long story short...he sees the same pot in town for $100.00, and the same guy is selling them - he asks the owner, "Why do you sell your pots for $100 in town, and $10 out? The owner replied, "Because some people like to spend $10, some people like to spend $100". The moral - sometimes people want to pay more for something because of what it provides them (perceived value - sure it's market driven, but the market drive itself...it's not like I see commercial for the dammed things - I mean, if I see commercials on TV or a Pop-up on my computer, I will agree it's marketing) - you may simplify it by saying it's the desire to "have some other don't" - but it's not the product - it's the experience. People weren't waiting in line to "own" a donut - they wanted the experience of eating a great donut that was considered the best - something rare...they weren’t “GULLIBLE”...or do you call all your customers that? Let me explain...

JERRY'S DECKS are considered "the best" not because they are the best deck in materials, but because of what is attached to it. You negligence in understanding this, makes me realize you don't appreciate the value of an experience and having/being part of something - which makes me understand you don't know the value of your magic and what it is people are really buying into when they hire you (if they hire you). YOUR CARD TRICKS AREN'T WORTH ANYTHING EITHER - but you give them a perceived value, when you work professionally. THIS same value is what is attached to the STATUS of these cards in THOSE WHO USE THEM ARE LEGENDS - YOU ARE NOT - SO KNOWBODY USES YOUR DECK...I am sure you would love a piece of the MILLIONS of dollars playing cards generate each year...not including the novelty decks sold on site like this! Guys like Lee Asher, Aaron Fisher, Micheal Weber, Jason England...and so on - all handle and cherish their Nuggets and RARELY give them away without fee. If someone is going to spend 150 on a deck of cards...I want to know those guys - because they love magic enough to invest in something that may be worthless to most but has meaning to members of the magic circle and is considered a collector’s item. They will eventually be so rare using them will be like...to quote "Pineapple Express", eating a unicorn.

It's two things pal - supply and demand (the deck is rare) in combination with status - you call it marketing and brain washing....honestly Baller08...it might be because I got mind for cheap...or given to me by Lee himself, as we are good friends....but I will tell you this - they do have value, they are part of magic history, as much as overpriced Furbees and PS3 are. However, this is part of magic; Jerry’s Nuggets are a rare part of our history...just like a set of shackles used by Houdini...or a set of Cups by Ross Bertram...or any other famous old props...this PROP is a deck of cards, and it is like owning one of those other historical props. Sorry it's a deck of cards - so perhaps you aren't narrow minded...you may just not be a student and lover of magic enough to understand their value as we leave OUR piece of history in time on magic. I guess owning magic props that legends used is a poor investment...and the only reason I do it is because some form of “marketing” is telling me to do it?

Um, NO, and as for the status thing - Your Avator has a picture of you wearing a hat with a team name on it...you paid more for it than buying a generic hat with nothing on it...so you are gullible and brain washed by marketing!! NOPE – you made a choice that the item you bought had value. So, even though I understand your thoughts...how you deliver them lacks any tack for people that DO understand it’s meaning and value, so please go back to living your point of view...it really shows your character, and I don’t think I have anything to share with you as you appear to lack any substantial knowledge on being a magician and a decent person.

As for saying it’s a weak reason” I want a different deck at conventions – let me explain, I like a different deck because, at sessions, David Williamson would borrow two guys decks that had the same colour back...and shuffle them together. It took those two guys a rather long time to separate their deck. I figured to avoid it and outsmart David (or copy cats that see David mess with people), I would always bring a deck nobody had to the meeting...well, decks are so massed produced now...everyone has every deck on the market - however, very few show up with Nuggets. If some jerk shuffles my deck into someone else’s...I can remove them from the backs, rather than the face...and if they riffle shuffle...my stack is unbroken, and can lead to some cool ideas. So, I think my reason is fine.

Hope this clears up any misunderstandings. Good luck in your magic.
 

JoeCarr

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ah a classic..

just having 'one' is enough for most people, and they dont even use them...

its like a rolls royce, a ford will get you from A to B, but if you can afford it, most would choose the rolls...

Same with jerrys, its not about how they handle, its about how you are perceived, hell i would love a deck, but i have MUCH better things to spend that much money on...
 

baller08

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Morgician,

You spent a lot of time writing something that basically proves my original point.

Your story about the merchant that sold the pot proves my point..not yours. He is laughing at the idiots who are willing to pay $100 for the same pot.

Remember the idiots that paid $250 for the Black Ghost Deck on ebay? They're $6.95 on E now I believe.

Those Krespie Kreme donuts? People who wanted those donuts came the next day, lined up for 5 minutes and got the same donut.

Most people don't want these cards because they "appreciate the history of magic"....they want it because it validates them. Its a status symbol. Like you said in your original post to me,

" not to mention the status of being able to use decks worth 150 bucks."

"I am not sure they are overrated, as I have ALWAYS wanted a deck that others didn't have."


Yeah, you sure are a great lover of history based on those 2 statements...lol. It's lame and weak when you need a deck of cards to make you stand out. If you can't do it on your own and need a "rare" deck of cards to do it, then you've got some work to do.

Lastly, oh great "student of magic"....to compare a plastic deck of cards that is only worth anything because people hyped it up to....a pair of handcuffs used by Houdini.....not only makes no sense, but it shows that YOU...pal....are the one who don't have the intelligence to differentiate between true value and marketing hype.

But hey...you're a "serious student" because you have a plastic deck of a cards with a goofy logo on the front. <shakes head>.
 
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Wow, your ignorance is BLINDING!

First, I don't disagree that it's a status symbol...as I know we both agree with that - but that doesn't mean it isn't also part of magic history. The decks - much like a nice car - cost more because of this...AND how rare they are/will be.

First edition black ghosts still have a large value...they came out with a second run and those are under $10.00.

I don't disagree with any of your points - but the rational that comes after I find a bit short sighted - it's because people are stupid/gullible/brain washed - please write something substantial that indicates this to be true. That is just opinion...and it is opinion from an immature child (regardless of the age your dirtstashe makes you look) that has nothing better to do than sling mud. It's weak really, grow up and understand how the world works. You pay for STATUS daily brother! Do you live in a shack, apartment or house? This is part of status - do you own/lease/rent a car? What kind? What do you do for a living? ALL this is part of status - so you don't have to stupid to be part of it...you have to be a human being.

I have many reasons why I like a NUMBER of decks - I never said I "needed" a deck of cards to make me stand out - but I did give you a number of reasons...those being a few...and taken out of context.

Here are the words I took from your last posts...to make a new sentence you said about yourself

"I" "am" "a" "weak" "student of magic" "and" "sold" "pot" "to" "idiots" - there - all quoted from your last post...amazing when we take things out of context!

As for this quote "t o compare a plastic deck of cards that is only worth anything because people hyped it up to....a pair of handcuffs used by Houdini.....not only makes no sense, but it shows that YOU...pal....are the one who don't have the intelligence to differentiate between true value and marketing hype" - what makes one a true value - and the other a "plastic deck" with no worth? The decks are RARE you KNOB! I will keep you in mind when I sell my first deck of Nuggets for $1000.00. It will happen - maybe not this week - but in 10 years when collectors desire a part of history...think Nuggets have no place in magic?

Read you moron:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry's_Nugget_playing_cards

Don't think they are becoming rare?
http://www.jerrysnuggetplayingcards.com/articles/jerrys-nugget-cards-dwindling.html


Do the research before you open your flawed logic opinion based comments - I can only PRAY that your magic is not as weak as your last few posts.

You know SO little about these decks that you refer to them as "plastic" when they are FAR from plastic - actually, they are card stock and have a coating on them that is no longer in use.

Keep shaking your head pal - you may shake some sense into yourself.

Honestly man - send me your address - I will mail you a pack - then you can AT least be educated enough and experience the deck first hand before making comments on something you obviously no very little about....the only thing you have really done in your posts in hate on the UNIVERSAL system of supply and demand...but hey - at least maybe one day we won't have that - like in the 1930's...good ol' depression. Also - you should try hating other things that naturally exist...like gravity.

I am not mad at you - actually, good for you for raging at the machine...must be hard for you to be so broke that you think $150 is a lot of money for a deck of cards that is used by exclusive members of the magic fraternity. Honestly, I have been doing magic for 10 years and am a Financial Advisor...150 for a deck that draws more attention than your flash riddled magic, is FAR worth the pocket change...hell, that is a fraction of my fee to even hold the deck in a publc setting. It is a smart magic investment - especially when you think in a short amount of time you will see the price go up...and I wll come back on this thread and write - I TOLD YOU SO BALLER08...but at least you may have a pack to sell and make profit on...then when you are paying your rent or bills with that money - you post on the wall what "true value" is.

Good luck with your mission in changing the status quo...but it may be hard considering your attitude. You get more flys with honey than you do with vinegar right?
 
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TheCleaner

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I've got some Jerry's that I'm willing to sell, and please, don't PM me asking if they're fake and ****, because that just irritates me that I'm a trusted card seller and people think I'd sell fake decks..
 

baller08

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LOL...nice try Mr. History Teacher...but anyone can clearly see that I did not take your quotes out of context. I quoted entire sentences that clearly shows you are wanting these for status...bragging rights.

Just like you feel like you needed to brag about your job and salary. We all know the type of guys that need to talk about how much money they make or what car they drive. A turn off for women and a laughingstock for everyone else around them.

Its fine really....you need things around you to make up for your defects...it's all good. But admit to it...don't try to hide behind "history" or comparing it to a house and car.

Not everything in this world is correct just because someone thinks it is. There is such a thing as stupidity and people being weak minded. Paying $200 for cards, lining up for 3 hours for donuts, camping out 1 month for a movie....all those things are up for ridicule by normal, logical, sane people.

You know the only people that should be laughed at more than those people? It's the people who try to justify it....you know...like yourself.


PS: I'll take you an offer to send me a deck...thanks...you shouldn't have. I'll turn around and sell it back to you...lol
 
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I would love to send you a deck - perhaps you can sell it - but you would be stupid too (however, I am starting to see that may be the issue) - so PM me your address and I will mail it out to you. If you sell them...buy yourself something you need - like manners...a personality...a shirt!

I will ask you know - watch your tongue. I don't appreciate the back handed comments - you don't know me, and you don't know my life. I am very happy in all aspects of my life, and I am sorry if that seems to upset you. I know guys like you too – you have a chip on your shoulder and some insecurity...diplayed by your emotional outburst and anger in all your words. God forbid, someone else with intelligence can enjoy something you despise for whatever small and juvenile reason. You think you are very smart...sharp tongue...that your point in the only point worthwhile...you have it all figured out - however, the only thing you have figured out is how to be stubborn and narrow minded – as you paint everyone the same. Imagine I did that – you table tennis playing, good at math, small penis having Bruce Lee wannabe? Thanks for inventing the Wii!

So, you didn't really answer any of my questions. What do you do for a living? Unlike you, I offered real parts of my life and experience - and if your magic is as hollow as your posts have been, I pity your audiences. I can easily see why you are so disconnected in life to the facts.

So feel how you want...I hope you keep laughing...because I will - all the way to the bank.

It must suck to be so angry over something so trivial...I feel bad for you Baller08 - would you consider talking to a counsellor? I will PM you some mental health lines in your area.

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Hope that helps - best wishes!
 
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baller08

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Oh no!! Not that! Don't spam me....you're sooo evvviilll!!

Hahahaha! What a nerd.

Wow..look at who got pisssssed off in a hurry! Well if you want to use my email address to surf viagra and porn sites...be my guest. We know you need to visit those sites. Luckily Gmail has awesome spam software...so I'll be alright.


You know...all this talk about your job, your salary, buying plastic decks, etc to make up for your defects.....you're the reason why this country is in a financial crisis. You're the reason why bankruptcy is at an all time high.

Congrats...you do matter...you've contributed to show the youth of America on how NOT to spend money.
 
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