I don't want to sound totally noob, but I've been ignoring this fan because I just suck, and now I feel like it's time that I knew pretty much the most basic fan there is. Anyway, I've watched the fanning section on XB, I've watched the explanation on the Trilogy, I just can't seem to do the damn pressure Fan. I know its kind of a spring in a fan shape, but I can't seem to get it at all, I cant find the pivot point, I try and do it and cards either go everywhere or it's a shambled mess that looks nothing even resembling an arc remotely. I'm a big believe that practice will solve most problems, but I've been tying this forever and it's just getting worse so I figure there must be some simple concept I've missed. I know... can't do a pressure fan... even I think it's ridiculous. Edit: Sorry for the typo, I meant the pressure fan, I can do the thumb fan.