We Need More Moderators?

Oct 21, 2007
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WOW! Ha, one day gone and that's of course the day the whole forum goes nuts.

Not these nuts.

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I mean THESE NUTS.

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HONESTLY! He's the Cookie Monster! What kind of Cookie Monster eats FRUITS?! Its just crazy! Wow.... I have no words for that.... Its a shame what is happening to our society.

Jokes aside (seriously though... he's the Cookie Monster....), I think there are some things that need to be addressed.

In my honest opinion, we don't need more moderators. There are people that say we do, but really... Raiker is on T11 almost 24/7. I'm on a ton obviously participating and moderating. Also, Rebelace69 lives in a different time zone than me. Its a 3 hour difference. The other moderators are on frequently as well. On top of that, I am contactable 24/7 by e-mail. I will receive your e-mail whenever you e-mail me no matter where I am. This also includes reported posts. I was camping last night and I was awake when all this was going on. I was getting TONS of "reported post" e-mails. I was just thinking "Uh.... wow something is up. Hopefully they get on that." I couldn't. I was busy in the middle of the woods in the freezing cold listening to music in a dark cabin with some friends. (Awesome night.)

Anyway, the point is, we all do our best to make sure the forums are good. For the most part we do. However, there will ALWAYS be people that disagree with what we do. We can't make everyone happy. Every once in a while I'll get a PM that says "Doug... honestly as a moderator, how can you keep this thread open?" If I agree with the statement then I'll close it. Then I'll get a nice PM that says "Wow Doug. Just because your a moderator doesn't mean you have to close every thread that gets a little crazy." People have different opinions. We can't make everyone happy. Sometimes you'll be happy with what we do, sometimes you won't. That's just the way it is. No amount of moderators can fix that. I don't care if you have 10 moderators in Japan, 8 in England, and 12 in the US. Not everyone can be satisfied and that's life.

All of the moderators are always talking in the background about different things with the site. We do everything we can. I thank you for those who realize that. For those that don't, well hopefully now you know. We all work hard. Sometimes its a pain in the neck and other times its pretty fun. Clearly, last night was not a good night. However, these threads don't pop up often. We get a major troll here on very rare occasions. Its when these things occur that we usually hear complaints "WE NEED MORE MODERATORS!" Not true. I also hear a lot "E never has these issues because E has more moderators." I'm sure E every once in a while has issues like this. E is not a utopia. More moderators will not fix the problems we face sometimes.

Another thing you can do to help is REPORT A POST! When you report a post, I get a nice little e-mail that says which user reported which post and for what reason. I can then do whatever I want with that post. Again, I GET ALL E-MAIL INSTANTLY! So whether you've got an issue or you are reporting a post, I can be contacted 24/7. (If you guys have issues, I would prefer PM's on here though. Only e-mail if its urgent. Thanks.)

Anyway, more moderators are not necessary. If you see some stupid thread made by some troll, DON'T POST IN IT! Click the report a post button. Believe me, I'll respect you a heck of a lot more. Reporting is the best thing you can do and I thank the users that do it on a regular basis. Your awesome. If you don't, you should start to.

YOU GUYS CAN DO SOME MODERATING YOURSELVES! If you see something bad, DON'T POST! You know it will only make the arguments worse. REPORT A POST! The moderators will then get to the issue as soon as possible. Remember that and the forums will always be a happy place. You want more moderators? Do some moderating yourselves!

If you ever need to talk to any of us, shoot us a PM. We are always more than happy to help. We always want what's best for the community and hopefully you all do too. So do your part and we will do ours. Thanks guys. Just remember, the trolls are a very small part of the community. They are the minority. It doesn't take much to get rid of them. Ignore. Report. PM. Whatever you want. We take all feedback into consideration. Ever see a thread that gets locked and you think it should had stayed open, send the moderator that locked the thread a PM and maybe they will re-open it if reasoning is good enough. I know I've done that several times.

Anyway, I just wanted to make this thread because I know yesterday was tough. The majority of you are great and you make Theory 11 a great place. Just because a few people have nothing better to do than piss people off doesn't mean we can't have a great community.

Keep rocking.

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(See what I did there. I'm so clever. :D Not really.... *sigh*....)

-Doug
 
Jun 7, 2008
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I agree with the logic of this post. But sadly it wont happen. I wish we could but some times random people come and just start spamming. I will try harder to report post because to be honest I forgot I could. I think this needed to posted and I thank you for doing that.
 
You guys are in my opinion good mods I think you allow everyone to express themselves under the guidelines of the rules which is exactly what your supposed to do I don't see the problem here. Maybe the ones complaining are the ones that stir the trouble and cause the problems. So otherwords Good job guys!:D
 
Sep 1, 2007
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I am pretty sure that if i post porn, spam, revealing tricks or something against the rules between 4 am to 9.30am or 10 est, it will be there and all the mods are gonna be sleeping like babies
 
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Dec 29, 2008
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GA
WOW! Ha, one day gone and that's of course the day the whole forum goes nuts.

Not these nuts.

mixtures-nuts-deluxe-rs_000.jpg


I mean THESE NUTS.

cookiemonster_1.jpg


HONESTLY! He's the Cookie Monster! What kind of Cookie Monster eats FRUITS?! Its just crazy! Wow.... I have no words for that.... Its a shame what is happening to our society.

Jokes aside (seriously though... he's the Cookie Monster....), I think there are some things that need to be addressed.

In my honest opinion, we don't need more moderators. There are people that say we do, but really... Raiker is on T11 almost 24/7. I'm on a ton obviously participating and moderating. Also, Rebelace69 lives in a different time zone than me. Its a 3 hour difference. The other moderators are on frequently as well. On top of that, I am contactable 24/7 by e-mail. I will receive your e-mail whenever you e-mail me no matter where I am. This also includes reported posts. I was camping last night and I was awake when all this was going on. I was getting TONS of "reported post" e-mails. I was just thinking "Uh.... wow something is up. Hopefully they get on that." I couldn't. I was busy in the middle of the woods in the freezing cold listening to music in a dark cabin with some friends. (Awesome night.)

Anyway, the point is, we all do our best to make sure the forums are good. For the most part we do. However, there will ALWAYS be people that disagree with what we do. We can't make everyone happy. Every once in a while I'll get a PM that says "Doug... honestly as a moderator, how can you keep this thread open?" If I agree with the statement then I'll close it. Then I'll get a nice PM that says "Wow Doug. Just because your a moderator doesn't mean you have to close every thread that gets a little crazy." People have different opinions. We can't make everyone happy. Sometimes you'll be happy with what we do, sometimes you won't. That's just the way it is. No amount of moderators can fix that. I don't care if you have 10 moderators in Japan, 8 in England, and 12 in the US. Not everyone can be satisfied and that's life.

All of the moderators are always talking in the background about different things with the site. We do everything we can. I thank you for those who realize that. For those that don't, well hopefully now you know. We all work hard. Sometimes its a pain in the neck and other times its pretty fun. Clearly, last night was not a good night. However, these threads don't pop up often. We get a major troll here on very rare occasions. Its when these things occur that we usually hear complaints "WE NEED MORE MODERATORS!" Not true. I also hear a lot "E never has these issues because E has more moderators." I'm sure E every once in a while has issues like this. E is not a utopia. More moderators will not fix the problems we face sometimes.

Another thing you can do to help is REPORT A POST! When you report a post, I get a nice little e-mail that says which user reported which post and for what reason. I can then do whatever I want with that post. Again, I GET ALL E-MAIL INSTANTLY! So whether you've got an issue or you are reporting a post, I can be contacted 24/7. (If you guys have issues, I would prefer PM's on here though. Only e-mail if its urgent. Thanks.)

Anyway, more moderators are not necessary. If you see some stupid thread made by some troll, DON'T POST IN IT! Click the report a post button. Believe me, I'll respect you a heck of a lot more. Reporting is the best thing you can do and I thank the users that do it on a regular basis. Your awesome. If you don't, you should start to.

YOU GUYS CAN DO SOME MODERATING YOURSELVES! If you see something bad, DON'T POST! You know it will only make the arguments worse. REPORT A POST! The moderators will then get to the issue as soon as possible. Remember that and the forums will always be a happy place. You want more moderators? Do some moderating yourselves!

If you ever need to talk to any of us, shoot us a PM. We are always more than happy to help. We always want what's best for the community and hopefully you all do too. So do your part and we will do ours. Thanks guys. Just remember, the trolls are a very small part of the community. They are the minority. It doesn't take much to get rid of them. Ignore. Report. PM. Whatever you want. We take all feedback into consideration. Ever see a thread that gets locked and you think it should had stayed open, send the moderator that locked the thread a PM and maybe they will re-open it if reasoning is good enough. I know I've done that several times.

Anyway, I just wanted to make this thread because I know yesterday was tough. The majority of you are great and you make Theory 11 a great place. Just because a few people have nothing better to do than piss people off doesn't mean we can't have a great community.

Keep rocking.

WZ%20705%20(Rocking%20chair).jpg

(See what I did there. I'm so clever. :D Not really.... *sigh*....)

-Doug
Cliffs??? I'm serious...
 
I did try out a test thread this morning (GMT), and it took over 30 minutes to close. However, I do not expect it to be locked at the very split second. If it took over 4 hours, then there may of been an issue.

However, I feel the moderators here do a stunning job, this community is growing, and there will be a time when new moderators will be needed, it is just the way it is when popularity grows.
 
Sep 30, 2008
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Doug,

You talk about how you are available 24/7 and how Jon Raiker is on almost 24/7 and the other 3 or 4 people are on a ton.

Wouldn't it make sense to have 2 or 3 more moderators to lighten the load of the current moderators? Obviously there will be a few things every once and a while that slips by the mods. But that's a given.

So when the time comes when 2 or 3 moderators are busy like you were, there would still be some people that could take care of it.

Now, I'm not saying that the forums need 7 or 8 more moderators, but 2 or 3 more would seem sufficient to me. Mainly for the reason that the moderators could all operate more efficiently and it wouldn't put so much pressure on the current mods while they are busy.

Of course, the moderators now are clearly very dedicated to what they do and are willing to take this on.

2 or 3 more moderators that are willing to put out the same amount of effort as the current moderators and show the same dedication would, in my opinion, make the forum a better place. :)

-Kevin
 
Doug,

You talk about how you are available 24/7 and how Jon Raiker is on almost 24/7 and the other 3 or 4 people are on a ton.

Wouldn't it make sense to have 2 or 3 more moderators to lighten the load of the current moderators? Obviously there will be a few things every once and a while that slips by the mods. But that's a given.

So when the time comes when 2 or 3 moderators are busy like you were, there would still be some people that could take care of it.

Now, I'm not saying that the forums need 7 or 8 more moderators, but 2 or 3 more would seem sufficient to me. Mainly for the reason that the moderators could all operate more efficiently and it wouldn't put so much pressure on the current mods while they are busy.

Of course, the moderators now are clearly very dedicated to what they do and are willing to take this on.

2 or 3 more moderators that are willing to put out the same amount of effort as the current moderators and show the same dedication would, in my opinion, make the forum a better place. :)

-Kevin

2 or 3 more moderators would "lighten" the load, but it seems the problem is late at night where people start taking advantage of the fact we are human and need to sleep. I was up from 12 am to 1:30 deleting threads, banning members and private messaging people. If I lived in the East then it would be 3 AM, where I would most likely be asleep.

The only thing that would make sense is there was an international moderator since it's hard for all of us to stay up in those wee hours of the night.

-RA69
 
I think that was the whole reason why the 'International Moderator' thread was created. We all know that you all need sleep, which is why the recommendation was suggested.

Yup yup. I think that is the only option that makes sense. Adding more from North America would lighten our load, but ultimately end up with the same problem (unless they have an unlimited supply of Red Bull).

-RA69
 
Nov 18, 2008
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Yup yup. I think that is the only option that makes sense. Adding more from North America would lighten our load, but ultimately end up with the same problem (unless they have an unlimited supply of Red Bull).

-RA69

Haha I agree. I think in the long run it would make more sense and would work better.
 
Yup yup. I think that is the only option that makes sense. Adding more from North America would lighten our load, but ultimately end up with the same problem (unless they have an unlimited supply of Red Bull).

-RA69

And someone from the UK, England, maybe! Only kidding, but yeah, moderators from different time-zones would make sense as it would split the work load more evenly, which will hopefully keep the forum is good shape and form.
 
Jan 13, 2008
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While I'm probably in the minority here, I'm going to have to agree with Sinful in that we really don't need anymore moderators. The ones we have do a terrific job as it is. Besides, it's not as if last night is a common occurrence (and if it is, the mods to a great job of hiding that fact, heh). The forums aren't under constant attack, day or night. There may be some things that pop up from time to time, like a completely pointless or stupid thread, but those are dealt with in a very timely manner--maybe not instantly, but they do get taken care of.

Like was mentioned, a huge tool we have in our favour, as apposed to appointing new mods, is to report posts. I've seen the mods (particularly Sinful) make comments in some threads (multiple page threads, at that) along the lines of "I can't believe nobody reported this thread...", meanwhile people were exasperating the issue through making multiple off topic posts inside the thread.

What I propose is that, instead of appointing new mods, we, as a community, grow up. Seriously, we need to start actually acting like we care about the place that a lot of us frequent. We don't need more mods for that to happen. It's as simple as reporting off topic threads, maybe posting something like "This thread has been reported.", and then just leaving it at that. That would be a signal for people to stop posting in the thread (if the thread is obviously off topic...if it's up for interpretation, then it would make sense for a mod to come in and respond as to why it's okay for the thread to continue--much like how they already do, saying things like "This thread is getting off topic--there's the potential for a good conversation, so I'll leave it open, but if it gets too off topic I'll have to close it", which I've seen a few times).

Also, if it's a single post that is off topic, then just reporting the post and then mentioning that you did that in your reply would also be sufficient. Nobody should respond to the post, talk back, swear at them, fight with them, etc...just report the post, and everybody move on.

Honestly, it's as simple as doing what Sinful mentioned--reporting posts, and resisting the urge to post in the topic (aside from, as I added, a post mentioning the thread, or single post, has been reported).

If the post is there for a while because the mods are asleep, oh well--you're not going to keep rechecking the thread, posting in it, etc anyway, right? The thread should be getting ignored. You see it once, you avoid it from then on--it's really as easy at that.

I'll end with a quote from a song on The Simpsons, because it really sums up the best way to deflate the power of an off topic poster (or ads, which is what the song was really about, but that's beyond the point):

"Just don't look! Just don't look!" -- Lisa Simpson

Cheers,

CM
 
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