Freakin' motard

Jul 25, 2012
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Detroit, MI
I'm mad....beyond mad, so i went to the magic shop that i found, over like 45 miles there and 45 back and when i got there what i saw made me furious. There was a man in the shop who was claiming he came up with Rapture By Edward Boswell, Angle Zero By Daniel Madison, he was giving the bull crap stories of his "creative process" i walked out because i was mad he took great effect's and calimed them as his own i swear people these day's.
 

RickEverhart

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Sep 14, 2008
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Here is why this happens more often then not. This man was obviously seeking attention and knew good and well that if he shows people these effects (which he already knows are great) and claims that he came up with them, then everyone at the shop would "approve" of him and let him in on the inner circle of trading secrets and such that sometimes happens in clubs and in the back of magic shops. It puts him up on a pedestal and establishes some credibility for him.

Believe it or not, if you are not a member of Theory11, chances are you are not going to know Rapture or Angle Zero. When you walk into a magic shop 99% of the time there are only a few "workers" and most are passer byers and a few hobbyists. Take for example my local magic club that I am in. There are probably 40 of us. I am the only one that even knew about Theory11 or its effects. It is easy to take a marketed effect (that is not well known within the community) and claim you came up with it. Most people would fall for it, hook line and sinker.
 
Dec 18, 2007
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Many years ago I was at the Magic Castle and pointed in the direction of a young man who was boasting about owning the Thurston show. We had quite the chat and so I invited him over to see some of the antique magic my mentor and I had collected over the years. Upon opening the garage doors he noticed some large orange crates marked BLACKSTONE which impressed him a bit, but then I started pointing out silly things like the Thurston Sawing, the Stretching and other such props he claimed to own. . .

The point is, magic is filled with braggarts and those with such low self-esteem that they must make things up when it comes to who they are and worse, how they want to be viewed by others . . . so much so that they actually start believing their own hype (it's quite easy to do, ask anyone that's tasted success how long it took them to wake up to the fact that they've lost it). I've met guys claiming they were behind effects I helped develop with various individuals over the years, the funniest being the clown that claimed he helped develop two or three well known pieces from Creative Illusions (including Shadow Vision and the Gemini Cage).

All we can do is smile and move on in that confronting them rarely accomplishes anything unless you're in the position to do as I did with the kid boasting ties to Thurston. Then again, I've found that forcing them to perform said effects is another interesting way of making them deal with reality at times, in that such characters frequently don't know the actual methods. For an example, the Thurston Sawing in Half has never used two girls (nor dummy parts or mirrors); the table is too small to hold that second lady.

(hehehe) I'll just leave you with that thought. . .
 
Jul 25, 2012
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Detroit, MI
It was insanly pathedic, i was furious he was a huge prick and tried to call me out after i used my cell and logged on to Theory11 to show everyone the truth.
 
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