I hear this all the time. People say that magicians are liars... Even some magicians say this. Penn Jillette says jokingly that he is a scumbag.... James Randi calls himself an honest liar. I have aunts who think so too...
Actually, I've never heard this. Seriously, not once. I have heard people say that they hate magicians in much the same way that some say that they hate mimes. But, hey, you can't please everyone so...no big deal.
So...you "hear this all the time"...that "people say that magicians are liars..." Not some people but (all?) people and not some of the time but all of the time. Me? I have no idea where this is coming from. Real head-scratcher.
I was performing a sucker trick for my aunt. So, I pretend to mess up and try to go on with it... But she stops me and says that she already "won", I was left dumbstruck...
Another aunt I asked to be a plant and her husband would never suspect, after some thinking, she said that it would be unfair to "lie" to her husband...
I'm just going to have to go with, you must be doing something wrong to provoke these types of responses. Perhaps practice more and work on patter and a more natural presentation? Not sure.
So I AM AKSING, HOW ARE MAGICIANS liars?
If magic is lying, then Music is mind control and theatre is a lie too...
I just can't see how is magic anywhere close to lying.
P.S I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT magical methods used to lie to people (e.g fraud psychics)
And that's because magicians
aren't liars (I hope I wasn't supposed to answer in all caps). Magicians are performance artists and there is a mutual understanding between artist and audience that what is "seen" is
not real (unless the audience is unfamiliar with the basics of reality in which case I would be wondering about the venue). The audience is usually engaging in the suspension of disbelief, a psychological phenomenon necessary for magicians to ply their trade. Those who refuse this mutual understanding are what we call hecklers (or, jerks, if you prefer).
My question for you is, why are you asking this? You start out with a premise that magicians are liars (and you say that people say this all the time). And yet you end with a statement that contradicts your premise, you say that you, yourself, "can't see how magic is anywhere close to lying." (In fact, the title of your post directly contradicts your premise, in all caps no less.)
Do you see the problem with this?
Why do you attempt to create a "controversial" topic that you clearly do not believe in? Why not, instead, participate in threads that others start? Why not ask a question that isn't "controversial" but instead focuses on advancing your skills in the art? Why not attempt to answer questions posed by others (in their threads) and thereby help their advancement?
Now, I have taken your question seriously and given you my honest opinion as respectfully as I can. Would you do me the honor of answering my questions?