Hi, I need to get a consecutive bottom deal with a full deck for different magic and gambling effects, and also cause I do all my false deals with full deck... That was my first attempt: [video=youtube;O0oWxZMCPVw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0oWxZMCPVw[/video] In fact, this video was the answer to a question I wondered: Why Erdnase put so many energy to describe the top palm whereas his mastered technique was the bottom deal ? I found the above answer... But back to the consecutive bottoms, in this video, I use something Marlo described as "modified Erdnase grip", a kind of master grip. Moreover, I know Jason England recommand the Gene Maze Grip for that, but I don't feel it very natural in my hands, and hard to do with full deck. Have you a recommandation to get this false deal as natural as possible.