chriswiehl Jan 9, 2008 1,771 0 Buffalo/Syracuse www.myspace.com Oct 13, 2009 #1 On David stones Real Secrets of magic, he does a move called the helmsley. now is this just the elmsley? or is it something else? i cant seem to find too much different. maybe im just over looking or something. thanks
On David stones Real Secrets of magic, he does a move called the helmsley. now is this just the elmsley? or is it something else? i cant seem to find too much different. maybe im just over looking or something. thanks
J Jupiter Sep 1, 2007 281 2 New Zealand Oct 13, 2009 #2 I remember seeing that, it was a mistake. It's just an Elmsley