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Not everything looks like moves Randy - actually, Giobbi made 2 books where the magic was MOVELESS (Card College light and lighter). The retention vanish is not the issue, but how it is done is - there is a big difference in a false transfer...and a motivated false transfer (in transit...

I always thought that many magicians are better at fooling themselves, than fooling their audiences. I really am not sure you understand how your audiences truly think. Again, I have done studies, surveys, and constantly ask - how often have you asked after a performance what people REALLY...

Magic is stronger when it is logical - it was explained to me by Tommy Wonder as the "Ham Sandwich theory" - if you are standing there...with a group - and then BAM - produce a Ham Sandwich...people will go...neat...even react. However, if someone says...Man, I am hungry, I could use a Ham...

The only thing that distracted was the odd arm movement, and waving...unnatural. The rest was done well - Paul Harris - brilliant ideas.

When will young magicians realize that reactions are not the end all to be all - reactions are an instant emotional response - and only ONE way to gain feedback. I once took cards out of my pocket, and the girl didn't see...and she screamed, "Oh my god - where did those cards come from"...her...

Can you explain Heart Breaker to me more reverhart. Are the order of events the same as his demo? http://www.paulgertnermagic.com/merchandise.html#biteme I thought about getting it at one point, but I wonder if it really looks this "clean". PM me if you need to be careful about...

Randy...you really only read and respond to what you choose - that is wonderful what Vernon said...and I apolagize for the misunderstanding, as you brought up Ortiz name - and you did mention he talked about it. Truthfully, it is the same concept...so? Perhaps you don't understand what a...

First let me handle the concept you have of the method - Ortiz doesn't talk about how crude the method is...he says, "if the method is difficult or easy is not the issue - make it easier on the audience to enjoy the effect, and do what it takes to achieve the effect" - however, if you talk to...

Three Fly - What do you feel the logical presentation is? How magical is it to get a coin from one hand to the other...when you could do it by placing it there...which is the method? It is like flipping a bill upside down by folding and unfolding...you know that old gag? Is that "magic"...

Haha - actually, I am a Financial Advisor...and I DO incorporate the concept of the market in magic, people LOVE to laugh over the idea of their money growing and shrinking - as it is nice to laugh and polk fun at something that is taken WAY too seriously....like it is the first time the market...

Just point form now: - G-force has issues in the method being a display of the force...it is in the name. Believe me, there are issues at hand. - if you don't agree that you need to FOOL first, then what is magic to you? Again, I think you need to re-read. Jami Ian Swiss, and I agree...

Still alive Nate?

Hmm, okay Randy - I can see how you would think that Bill's stuff is not "magical", because his personality is so memorable - but he is a solid card worker and chooses to be the guy that shows great skill with cards - Notice though - he does NO coin work. Gregory Wilson and I worked at magic...

Randy - we are obviously not on the same page. You don't have the same standards with your magic, that I do. Sorry if you don't hold yourself to the same standards that I have developed - but I have done VERY well for myself over my ten year career - paying my way through college, university...

Scott - If your card magic, and other magic is lame...then no wonder they ask you to do coins - your audience just wants to see something you don't suck at. However, I don't suck at cards or mentalism...I also don't suck at coins. I don't present magic like it is "real", however, I don't...

Randy - you have proven my point - the topic isn't "if coin magic sucked" - at least read and comprehend my first post. You wonder why it is so frustrating...for so long...to have to say..."I don't think coin magic sucks, but it has inherent issues that aren't being dealt with" - and even Roth...

Or maybe Randy...maybe you THINK you know guys that do coin magic well, because you see it as a magician, and have lost what it is like to be the audience and what their processing is when they see magic...perhaps, this is SO far over your heard in conceptual and critical thinking that you have...

Really...I consider myself pretty well versed at coin magic - I have been doing it much longer than you (just so you know) and I hang with award winning coin magicians and guys that are consider elite with coins - we all agree their are issues, I just don't find many people willing to deal with...

Hey Monopoly - it is not just that it is technically hard, because I don't deny that it takes more effort to be good at coins, than good at other forms of magic - yet, even if it were equal - there are inherent issues with coin presentations and methods that make it less enjoyable and...

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