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at one point they were talking about how it was on their shelves for a couple years until they finally found a method that would work better.

anyways, back on topic, this has been sold before. it was a different system. and it was 250$. He stopped selling it because a hose broke and he got frostbitten and has permanent mark on his body. BUT Ellusionist has changed this method around so it;s safe (To my knowlege)

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Yes, but it's still overcomplicating something that can be achieve so much easier with a sidesteal

Filth: I sis NOT say that it was a pass. I said that it was a onehanded SIDESTEAL. and a sidesteal look much more namtural as well. it just looks like you're squaring up the deck, while the slipshift, you never make that movement anywhere else in your magic.

Honestly, I wouldn;t get it. The clipshift is as one-handed sidesteal. which is overcomplicating things. it's like using a pass for a color change.

Sorry guys. but I'm contacting an admin/mod about this post to lock it. there is too much flaming going on.

I'm not saying that it won;t work. I'm sayiong that it isn't a pass, a a double undercut is still less fishy.

sorry. but that's not that original, and mit's much less fishy to use a double undercut. a pass/shift is supposed to be invisible. so that technically isn;pt a pass.

it WAS released. but then it was taken off of the shelves.

I'm almost positive that it's the same. The swami method doesn;t have the synchronization of the piece in the mouth,

shift is another name for pass

all passes, with just a little bit of varation, can bass a card to the bottom. but learn the sidesteal. You don;t need to perform a pass to control one card. so just use a sidestal.

if the method is the same to the swami mantra (Which it probably is by the looks of it) it hurts ALOT. But the slieght method doesn't to my knowledge. there is setup to the geek method, but it's not a gimmick. And by the way, the slieght method does nto look the exact same. but it looks...

Toy robot: books, you don't make much money. you're not making them to get alot of money. You make them to giv ewth secrets to a select few. You don;t always make profit, but the AOA books are REALLY famous.

it is NOT by Jonothan Bayme. it's released. it's actually on MJMmagic.

Look at it this way: DVD's and PDF's are produced for money. books are produced to let people know routines that theyve been holding onto for YEARS. therefore: Book = always better

you can get it at a normal store. or at your local rental place. just ask for it.

I ssecond and third this!

to the spectator maybe. I think that Sinful and I's friend accidentally came up with the slieght version. I saw a video of sayne performing thread and his eye was irritated aftyerwards. So it's probably the swami/mantra method. plus the mouth thing to look like it's one thread.