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Firstly, I dont consider different patter to be a variation, unless it changes what the spec sees happenning in the effect. As far as my patter goes, I dont even know what the buck's original patter is. Mine is probably quite similar, but I dont know. I've never had a problem with people not...

That's why I was asking. I realize that not much hasn't been done yet as far as such ideas go. Much has been done that we dont know aabout (the vast majority of us that is) and I was wondering if anyone here had possibly seen of or heard of such a move.

Yes, thats pretty much the idea, but if you do it the way I've been doing it, you can get the mechanical reverse going as you're finishing the half pass.

Hey guys, so I've been playing around with this kickback type effect, and It required me to do a double half pass (half pass half the deck, then their selection). In the early stages of the trick, I did just that. Got a break, half passed the half packet. Then half passed only the bottom card...

Knowing Kostya though, it's probably just a hell of a lot of roadrunner culling. Favorite triumph at the moment though, Joshua Jay's Tumped Triumph. A combination of John Bannon's Last Man Standing, with a little kicker. It's a nice one.

Chad Long has one of the coolest controls Ive ever seen. Looks so damned clean. Took me a long time to figure it out. I dont know the name of the control though, sorry. I honestly dont like the Losing Control though, the method is completely see through IMO, although I do think it would fly...

The easiest clean up is to do the show, then just cop out as you table spread.

I think that it really doesnt matter what DL you do, so long as it looks the same as your singles. I HATE Diving Board Doubles (my apologies Mr. Asher). I dont care how damned convincing it looks. Give a deck of cards to a layman, watch them flip over a card. Guaranteed they never do a diving...

As far as the pass goes, I feel it's a move that is better dont silent, then done invisibly. I've see quite a few guys who can make the pass fairly invisible, but it makes that damned clicking noise, which in my opinion, is worse then having it be visible. If it makes a noise, they know you did...