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This thread is making me lose even more faith in this community.

sure. i'm planning to use a multi phase effect, so that's cool. Rules?

anyone else up for this?

I hope you realize that there are actually more flourishes in the world other than ones that Dan and Dave Buck created.

Ehh, teenage guitarists are just as bad as teenage magicians.

The angles are literally the same. The practicality is literally the same. It's just preference.

I understand completely. I'm in Australia, and the media doesn't really present him. We only really got his first season, so I guess they respond differently to him.

I don't like Criss Angel, but please don't bash him for that reason. If anything, people are more open to magic because of him. When I get into a chat about magic with a random, they usually start talking about Criss Angel and how great he is. I completely agree with you about everything...

Like stated previously, it's all about presentation. I hate to use examples as points of argument, but: The biddle trick has absolutely everything you're asking for. Card-related, impromptu, hard-hitting, easy (technique-wise), astonishing. Plus, I think it's good. I've made...

My thoughts: When hitting a wall when learning something new, for me, it is usually the result of one or two tiny weaknesses. The first part is identifying just exactly what that weakness is. Like you said, you have to go over the technique and the teaching again and again until you understand...

is this about practice or learning new concepts?

i didn't say it was. Anyway, Andrei can form standard thumb fans as well, but I guess he just prefers the unconventional pivot point.

I agree with everything but this. I hope you're not criticizing David Blaine's presentation.

it's mindless and childish posts and thoughts like this that are the problem with the communities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-minute_mile

yes, and prior to 1954, running a mile in 4 minutes was "impossible".

To keep them from opening their hand prematurely, another way is just to turn their hand upside down. For the reveal, I agree with the previous poster, this is how I've always done it, and it flys. A large majority of the time, the spectator follows you. And it's not like they need to hear you...

I tried it once. Then I lost faith in the human race.

I love the internet.

T_T shows how much I know about mentalism in Australia.