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    Death to the Double Undercut // 1-on-1

    I completely agree, it's getting really annoying when people keep saying 'you don't like them because there too easy' or 'not every 1 on 1 will suit you' They're completely missing the point. Yea, I don't see why Joel is releasing cuts when T11 also have Dan and Dave Daniel Madison and...
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    Death to the Double Undercut // 1-on-1

    Unfortunatley there isn't a magic store within 100 miles of where I live. If there was then I would happily give you video evidence of me burning them.
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    Death to the Double Undercut // 1-on-1

    I never 'bought into' the hype, I was simply commenting that they don't appear to meeting their own standards of selling 'only the best effects' No, but selecting a very small amount of the basic material available and significantly over pricing it is. That's not really the point. A more...
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    Death to the Double Undercut :: Review

    I don't doubt that Joel is better than me but that doesn't mean that his 1 on 1's a are good value for money. I probably don't have a quarter of the talent Joel does, i'm not a professional magician, my talents are in other areas but I know that a swivel cut is not worth $5. I don't really...
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    Death to the Double Undercut :: Review

    Well done? Nobody is complaining that they aren't advanced, they are complaining because it is unorginal and available for free elsewhere. As I said in the other thread, simply being a T11 artist does not mean you automatically gain unlimited respect. Respect has to be earned. All the...
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    Death to the Double Undercut // 1-on-1

    This is something I understand very well and discussed extensively last time this subject was brought up. I agree that the effect is always more important than the method and some of the simplest methods produce some of the most powerful effects. However, I don't believe that it is logical...
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    Death to the Double Undercut // 1-on-1

    I agree he's right but he's being ignored because that's not what this thread is about. It would be a good topic to discuss in a new thread.
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    Death to the Double Undercut :: Review

    If he released stuff like Believe then it wouldn't be a problem but I don't want anymore 1 on 1's from him. Joel and T11 have probably made hundreds if not thousands from selling Joel's charlier and swivel cuts.
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    Death to the Double Undercut // 1-on-1

    I would agree that it's better to buy The Trilogy than the 1 on 1 's, or TOOC (in fact when 5 Speed was released I suggested it may be too expensive in my review, although I don't regret buying it) The reason people are hammering Joel is because his material is not original. The Bucks and...
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    Death to the Double Undercut :: Review

    I don't know who invented it but I agree it's brilliant. It's the control I use if everyone is burning my hands. If it wasn't a good move then it wouldn't have stuck around for so long. People will probably still be using the Double undercut in 20 years. They will forget about Death to the...
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    Death to the Double Undercut // 1-on-1

    I can see what your saying, I'm perhaps not expressing myself very well. The point is, nearly all of us know how this is done and know it's an extremely basic move that is widely available. We just feel that it isn't right of them to charge $5 for this. We don't think it's fair to charge...
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    Death to the Double Undercut // 1-on-1

    People are not whining for the sake of it, they are whining because they feel they are being overcharged for something that is nearly worthless. People are getting very annoyed by it because it has happened several times now, which is why the reaction may appear to be disproportionate to what...
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    Death to the Double Undercut // 1-on-1

    Have you even read what people are complaining about? The stupidity of this statement is unbelievable. Nobody EVER said you can learn everything here from Youtube and Decknique, we said this particular 1 on 1 can be learnt from many other sources. Nobody said you can learn Distortion, Panic...
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    Death to the Double Undercut // 1-on-1

    You have completely missed the point of why people are complaining Nobody has complained that the 1 on 1's don't fit their needs. Obviously we're not expecting a new super hard pass every week. The Coin 1 on 1's don't fit my needs at all as I don't do coins, but I never complained about...
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    Death to the Double Undercut // 1-on-1

    This is absolutley unbelievable. This is a new low for the 1 on 1's and for T11. This is a 3 packet swivel cut that can be found EVERYWHERE, there's probably a tutorial on Youtube for it (there's also tutorials for far better and more convincing false cuts) T11 should be ashamed of...
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    The Queens

    You're probably not going to get anybody running off screaming with The Queens, you won't get that sort of reaction with any of the effects on The Trilogy. The Queens is something i'd do in a more relaxed setting for 1 or 2 people, it will probably just get a 'wow, that's cool' reaction but...