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A little off topic here, but the other T11 decks (props, cents, stingers) have been out for almost 3 months now. Any ETA on those decks?

Yeah, its been almost 6 weeks since it was announced that "next edition of Stingers to be back in house within the next few weeks"...

I reckon T11 is printing a new limited edition deck that is going to replace the white centurions.

To be honest, a 40% thicker box does not make much of a difference. Normal boxes are probably 1mm thick, so the Sentinel boxes will be 1.4mm thick, which isn't really that big of a difference. That said, I you should really try the Bee Premium Casino decks, or the Bee RJRTC Watermelons.. Those...

There "air cushion" dimples are definitely present. Take a look at some of the Sentinels photos and you'll see that under certain lighting conditions, those dimples are visible.

They have already been discontinued from the line. The new arrocs that you see being carried by pokerstud52 on ebay was a special request he made with the USPCC to print them on a single run. I believe they can still be printed on request, but arrcos wont be mass produced anymore. :mad:

any idea where these can be bought from?

All decks come out smooth finished. To get the usual Air-cushion/cambric finish (aka dimples), the cards go through a calendering machine.

At any one point in time, the casino would have been using one colour only. So it could be true that the different colours were printed on different batches.

So are the 2nd editions better than the 1st edition erdnase decks??

Actually, the Arrcos are not being printed at the moment. The new ones with the black seals that you are getting now were from a SINGLE PRINT RUN that an ebay seller made with uspcc. That was probably 3000-5000 decks I reckon anyway, so the cards will still be around, except the stock isn't the...

If you're meaning the RJRTC Bee watermelon decks, there are only two colours available, red and blue.

have a break, have a v4

very sure its because of the lack of quality control... the fashion decks had a similar problem too.

Means they will be available widely in stores for around the price of a standard bike.

13redle is right. The Bicycle Limited Edition Series 2 will be released sometime in January 2010, along with the 125th Anniversary decks.

The guardians sold at Walmart are not commissioned by T11. What I believe is USPCC paid for the rights to use the Guardians design and printed them on their own bicycle stock and sold them in local stores. From what I know, the USPC guardians can only be found in Canada idky, but correct me if I...

You probably didn't handle them enough. I agree the background isnt really appealing, but they definitely feel and handle great.

If you bothered to search, http://forums.theory11.com/showthread.php?t=20394&highlight=stingers

The backs are exactly the same, only you don't get a double backer. The decks sold off T11 are of a better and thicker stock I suppose, and the Uspcc guardians have normal bicycle stock.