# Disguising a force

Discussion in 'Magic Forum' started by YRAMagicMan, Sep 10, 2012.

1. #1
I have an idea for a card trick done backwards, but I'm not sure the best way to cover the force required. The idea is to start with a card on the table, face up and tell the spectator, "that is your card," replace the card in the deck, then have them pick a card and it be the card they saw on the table. The problem is that it seems that a force there would be the logical assumption from a spectator. How would I avoid this? I'd like to use the Classic Force or a Spread Cull Force for this trick, just so you know what mechanics I'm thinking of.

2. #2
I don't know if you'll be able to avoid it entirely. I occasionally do a thing where the same card keeps being selected as a kind of ice breaker (and I know I'm not remotely unique in that) and I use a variety of forces and controls to do it.

You'd disguise the same way you'd disguise a force in any situation. By looking natural and acting like someone who isn't forcing a card.

3. #3
How about only one person knowing that the card is to be the chosen card, like you're telling a single spectator a secret. Then perform your little miracle and incorporate the first person's knowledge into the finale of the trick (like the beginning, someone naming a card to use).

4. #4
The spectator's first thought, like you said, is going to be that you forced the card, so the solution is just to keep your hands off the deck. Something like a criss-cross force would work, where you take the card back, control it to the top, then have them cut the deck and do the criss-cross force. They'll think they cut right to it by themselves, but you'll still have forced the card.

5. #5
I like the way you think! Thanks for the help guys. I'll figure out a way to do this and make it awesome.