Magic, and how it relates to...

Feb 4, 2008
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No need for a long winded blog post to determine if you are worthy of the title artist....
art·ist (ärtst)
n.
1. One, such as a painter, sculptor, or writer, who is able by virtue of imagination and talent or skill to create works of aesthetic value, especially in the fine arts.
2. A person whose work shows exceptional creative ability or skill: You are an artist in the kitchen.
3. One, such as an actor or singer, who works in the performing arts.
4. One who is adept at an activity, especially one involving trickery or deceit: a con artist.

That's what dictionaries are for....
 

Keo

Mar 10, 2011
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You didn't even fricking read it did you? The article wasn't about whether or not you are worthy of being called an artist, everyone has the ability to be called an artist. The article was only pointing out how other people, laymen and actual artists view magic and magicians.

If you want to be defined by a dictionary, so be it. I'd much rather push through and be consider a real artist by my peers, instead of labeling myself as an artist for publicity reasons. Calling someone, an artist in the kitchen, is more of a tongue and cheek. If you are a real artist in the kitchen I'd think a better term for you would be master chef, chef, head chef, etc. You know something that actually sounds like something, other then something that could be applied to a stay at home cooking wife, whose good in the kitchen, an artist in the kitchen.

That leads me to the next point. People of the arts, sculptor, performing arts, painters, etc. are artists that is just how it works. Most of those people put a lot of hard work and effort into their art in order to invoke emotion, imagination, things that a common ACR or FISM ACR won't do. The article does acknowledge that some magicians are artists. But not artists of magic.

Teller is a terrific mime, David Copperfield shows drama, Cardini was a one man play, and what separates your magic from them? The answer is a little easier then you think, if their magic wasn't there, they as performers would be able to still invoke emotion, etc. Their art isn't in magic, but real performance art. Sure magicians could cop out and call themselves artists through the performing arts route. "You're an actor playing the part of a magician," Seems to make any Yahoo who performs the cups and balls routine with a blue, red, and yellow cup an artist. IF you magicians want to cheapen the title of artist, go for it. Just don't expect me to follow.
 
Jul 13, 2010
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Let`s be honest. 99% want to be called artists to make their 'passion' more valuable, to be something special.
Ask yourself, does it really make a difference whether our passion is categorized as an artform or not ?
 
Jun 10, 2010
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Let`s be honest. 99% want to be called artists to make their 'passion' more valuable, to be something special.
Ask yourself, does it really make a difference whether our passion is categorized as an artform or not ?

Not at all.

Truthfully, I don't care. I enjoy it. And to me, that's all that matters. None of this trivial, 100% magician "rational contemplative thoughts" BS for me.

I don't consider myself an artist. Somebody else might. That's their choice, as far as I'm concerned.
 

Keo

Mar 10, 2011
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Exactly. I feel that the term artist applied to magicians is a gimmick, or novelty. For those who do believe they are artists and willfully call themselves one, tell me, no show me an example of your master piece?

I'm a skeptic first and a magician second. Why should your audience feel the need to call what you do an art?
 
Jun 10, 2010
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Exactly. I feel that the term artist applied to magicians is a gimmick, or novelty. For those who do believe they are artists and willfully call themselves one, tell me, no show me an example of your master piece?

I'm a skeptic first and a magician second. Why should your audience feel the need to call what you do an art?


Agreed. As someone said on the recent Cardistry and art form thread, art is in the eyes of the beholder.

Food for thought.
 
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