I myself do not flourish much, although i would love too, it looks beautiful and elegant, but i have never taken the time to sit down and just work on flourishes, and I am sure at some point I will. That was not the topic of this thread though, I see some flourishing in magic, for example during preformence of a card effect, one may flourish instead of shuffeling the cards with a simple riffle shuffle or so. Something that I have not seen done yet though is Magic in Flourishing. I am not talking a bout card productions or so out of flourishes because it looks like skill and not magic. A lot magicians i have talked too are against the idea of putting flourishes into their magic for that exact reason, it will look like skill and slight of hand instead of clean beautiful magic. But what if you reversed it and somehow incorperated magic into your flourishes, it may be more interesting to the spectator now. I see flourishing a lot like playing the guitar, you can learn some very very complicated songs to make you a better player, you can learn to shred and all that, but as a listener having to suffer through 5 minutes of nothing but shredding will get very very boring for most people. If you are learning these complicated flourishes, why not show somebody? but i think to most lay people they will not be able to distinguish apart all the different cuts you are showing them, and it will start to blur together and get boring fast. I'm not saying this is fact, I'm just saying this is my view on it. Instead of looking at flourishing and magic as two different things, I been trying to see them as a unit, that go hand in hand. What effects could you build into a flourish routine? maybe some magic devices like the ultra smoke or so, think deep and tell me what you came up with. thank you for taking the time to read this post.