Hi guys! I want to learn the classic pass well. I understand it is a hard move to master. Does the Pass Trainer (Steel Deck) by Hondo actually help you learn the pass and improve it?
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Question About the Classic Pass
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I don't think trainers are necessary, but maybe they do help. I wouldn't know. I don't own any. You want to do the pass with a deck of cards, so I never understood why a person would practice with anything else. Just use cards.
The Classic Pass is an easy move to do, but a hard move to do correctly. I would highly recommend purchasing the Classic Pass download from either Jason England, Alex Pandrea or Xavier Spade. Learning it from a book or from youtube will only make you develop bad habits if you continuously practice it wrong.
Many people on here will tell you that you don't need a perfect pass since you want to manage and misdirect your audience when you do the actual move. Eh. I feel like posts like that almost encourage you to either not learn the pass at all (why use the pass if they're not looking, just cut the cards), or encourage you to settle with a mediocre pass. No. Learn the pass, and learn it properly. I do agree that you should try to manage your audience when doing the Classic Pass, but it also doesn't hurt to master the mechanics. You can manage the audience all you want, but even condoms are only 98 percent effective. If you really don't want a baby you'll use condoms and pull out.
The Classic Pass is an easy move to do, but a hard move to do correctly. I would highly recommend purchasing the Classic Pass download from either Jason England, Alex Pandrea or Xavier Spade. Learning it from a book or from youtube will only make you develop bad habits if you continuously practice it wrong.
Many people on here will tell you that you don't need a perfect pass since you want to manage and misdirect your audience when you do the actual move. Eh. I feel like posts like that almost encourage you to either not learn the pass at all (why use the pass if they're not looking, just cut the cards), or encourage you to settle with a mediocre pass. No. Learn the pass, and learn it properly. I do agree that you should try to manage your audience when doing the Classic Pass, but it also doesn't hurt to master the mechanics. You can manage the audience all you want, but even condoms are only 98 percent effective. If you really don't want a baby you'll use condoms and pull out.
And when you said learning from a book will make one develop bad habits...I died mate, you killed me. I am so sad...I am NOT GOING TO MENTION YOU IN MY WILL ANYMORE!!!
I did what Aaron Fisher said in an interview - I re-read the part of Expert at the Card Table on the 2-handed shift every day, and I studied the material, before practicing. I made sure my hand positions were correct, and the action was correct. I also studied Jason England's 1on1 on the pass, but I didn't review that every day.
A pass trainer is used to make the muscles in your hands stronger. The idea being that being able to move the packets faster makes for a better pass. You can also practice with two full decks. I did both.
I think the points to focus on are controlling finger flutter, controlling noise (big one), and timing it so everyone is naturally not focusing on the hands.
There is no such thing as a truly "invisible" pass. If they're looking at your hands they will probably know when you do "something" even if they can't see it specifically. Master the technique, but part of mastering it is also mastering the timing and misdirection.
A pass trainer is used to make the muscles in your hands stronger. The idea being that being able to move the packets faster makes for a better pass. You can also practice with two full decks. I did both.
I think the points to focus on are controlling finger flutter, controlling noise (big one), and timing it so everyone is naturally not focusing on the hands.
There is no such thing as a truly "invisible" pass. If they're looking at your hands they will probably know when you do "something" even if they can't see it specifically. Master the technique, but part of mastering it is also mastering the timing and misdirection.
And when you said learning from a book will make one develop bad habits...I died mate, you killed me. I am so sad...I am NOT GOING TO MENTION YOU IN MY WILL ANYMORE!!!
You misunderstood. Learning it strictly from a book, in my opinion, is not the best way to learn the pass. If you read something wrong, or don't understand the language, or it is described poorly in writing, then you will do the pass wrong. You will practice it wrong. You will develop bad habits that will be hard to unlearn.
Learning from a book on your own is a skill. If you've ever taken an online class you'll know what I mean. Sometimes with certain subjects or parts of a subject, it is beneficial to actually have an instructor to show you how it is done. I think the pass is one of those things.