Sealed Deck in Mnemonica Order

Josh Mickelson

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I know several other decks that come in Mnemonica stack, but none that are bicycle or tally hos, sorry... If you're willing to look at other decks though, I do have some suggestions.
 
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I found these - they can only be bought in bricks and are about $4.50 per deck.
http://conjuringarts.org/2011/11/professional-bicycle®-playing-cards/
They don't come in Mnemonica but they are (and I quote) "arranged similarly to the Spanish, or Fournier, order. It is a natural Stay-Stack or mirror stack and will allow those of you who use Mnemonica to get into stack more quickly than with regular Bicycles." - whatever that means.

Isn't there a way to use faros to get into mnemonica stack from a regular stack though?

If you absolutely want a pre-sealed Tamiriz Stacked deck, I think you may have to buy a "luxury/custom" deck. I know a lot of David Blaine's decks come stacked - I suggest buying the white lions, because they look simple enough to pass but hold a ton of secrets.
 
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Black Lion playing cards by David Blaine is probably the closest you're going to get to Mnemonica order from a brand new deck. With one small cut, you're in Mnemonica order. Watch the video below at the 7:39 mark where Chris talks and shows this. Hope this helps!

 
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I bought 2 bricks recently. Very nice, but don't fit the request. I have begun rotating them into my regular work as the stock is pretty thin. At $5/deck, you can buy a few for the dog to play with! :)

Lots of cool in that deck, lots of thought put into it, highly recommend, a true marked deck that you can beat the hell out of and not feel guilty.
 

Mr. E's Mysteries

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Penguin Magic's blue and red marked Bicycle decks come in mnemonica order. They're very nice cards, but some people complain that the markings are too obvious. I haven't had any problems along that line, but if you're worried that someone will see the marks even if you're not using them, they might not be the decks for you. Clearly, if the audience sees the marks, they'll think that's how you're doing the magic. You can't exactly stop partway through your presentation and say, "No, honest to God, that's not how I'm doing it! Here, let me show you the real trick!" It just doesn't work that way!
 

Jason England

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So, just to offer a counter example....

For years I have opened the bottom of the cellophane with a pen-knife, slid the box out from the cellophane, peeled back the label carefully to open the box and then set the deck into a pre-determined order. I also usually take a moment to put a reverse-breather crimp into the 9C if that will be useful to me later. On very rare occasions I'll put other work into the deck for something special. Another pro tip is to remove some cards and squirrel them away somewhere sneaky for a big finish. The Kings are perfect for this since you can show the AS, 2S, 3S...etc, on the face, run quickly through to the Hearts and show the AH, 2H, 3H,...etc at the top. Naturally everyone just assumes the Kings are in there somewhere.

But I digress....

I replace the deck into the box (careful to replace the Jokers and advertising cards and to use the proper "new deck" orientation) and reseal the label. I then use two spare playing cards as guides to get the box started back into the bottom of the cellophane wrapper. The wrapper is slid all the way down. Most of the time I don't bother to reseal the very bottom of the cellophane (and in fact I remove it entirely most of the time with the pen-knife), but occasionally I will keep it intact and reseal it with some clear glue.

In all the years I've done this I've never once had anyone ask to minutely examine the cards. I remove the deck from my pocket or close-up case (in larger shows), use my fingernail to separate the pull-tab from the top of the cellophane and uncoil the pull-tab. I then remove the rest of the cellophane completely and throw it away. I then slice open the label with my thumbnail and open the cards just like I open every other deck in my lifetime.

The only thing I'll do differently if I've gone to the trouble of completely resealing the deck is to simply toss them onto the table and allow (without encouraging) them to be picked up and examined. I'll sometimes mention that these are "casino quality" cards (if using Bees or Aristocrats) or "my favorite brand" if using Bicycles "because I can buy them at any drugstore or gas station in the country." Again, this implies that they're normal without explicitly saying so. The spectators come to their own conclusions without me ham-fistedly guiding them.

I remove the cards and a few false shuffles later we're off to the races.

The long and short of it is this: I agree that having cards in special orders and/or with "work" in them inside a sealed box/cellophane wrapper is useful. But I'm not about to pay anyone 3-5x what a normal deck costs (I get my cards at Costco for $1.20 per usually) to do it for me.

Jason

PS: Lastly, my method works with every deck, anywhere in the world, with any color you like. No shopping around required.
 

RealityOne

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The long and short of it is this: I agree that having cards in special orders and/or with "work" in them inside a sealed box/cellophane wrapper is useful. But I'm not about to pay anyone 3-5x what a normal deck costs (I get my cards at Costco for $1.20 per usually) to do it for me.

Jason

PS: Lastly, my method works with every deck, anywhere in the world, with any color you like. No shopping around required.

"Worker."
 
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White Lions!!!
I know its said before...but, still XD
I mean, you should get it. Amazing deck with amazing helping cards and amazing order.
 
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Black Lion playing cards by David Blaine is probably the closest you're going to get to Mnemonica order from a brand new deck. With one small cut, you're in Mnemonica order. Watch the video below at the 7:39 mark where Chris talks and shows this. Hope this helps!

I did notice that video ages ago.
And the weird thing is that Ramsay made a new video where he said he WON'T reveal the order!
And I was sitting in my room like "Hey mate! You TOLD us the order before!"
I even left a comment saying that.
If any new subscriber who is curious to DEATH trying to know what order the deck has sees my comment, they will be happy :)
 
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