I do not put my time into them because I don't enjoy doing them. It's not that I haven't tried them, it's that they are not my style and I don't enjoy them and I don't appreciate someone telling me and others what we should spend our time doing. I was not serious in telling him to do more than fans and arm spreads, if he like them so much he can do them all day. What I dislike is his pushyness trying to force everyone into doing them. I personally just love the feel of a well created cut. I do my share of fans and other things, but I focus on cuts because that is what I enjoy. He focus' on fan's and arm spreads because that is what he enjoys. I am not oblivious to the other areas of cardistry, I just do not perfer them.