I never read the Cafe....even more political than most forums IMO...but Ammar's toppit is likely the best evolution of the toppit to date. I'm still waiting for him to rerelease his topiting DVD because he certainly is the athority on them. Off the top of my head, design wise, there is one key advantage to the Ammar Topit, and one key advantage to the 21st Century Toppit(can't get into details w/o exposier sorry) You will need a Tailor to install an Ammar Toppit unless you have those skills. It is not transferable whereas the 21CT is. One minute of work on any jacket and the 21CT is ready to go. The price on Ammar's Topit design is $6.00 so if you have the skills and the time to sew a bunch together and put them in various jackets then it may be the better way to go. So my personal advice for most guys is to go with 21CT for starters, you get everything you need to get started including instructions on a couple of fantastic effects. Whenever the Ammar DVD comes out(may already be back but I haven't checked in a while) it comes highly recommended and at that point you may decide to switch to the Amar style.