Trick Clean-up Ranking System

[Dylan P.]

Well, all of the magicians here talk about ending a trick clean and such. But what is clean? How do you know if you end clean? does that mean that the spectator can touch the cards or do you have to? Well, I have created a five level ranking system to determining wether an effect is clean or not. Here it is:
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(From Highest to Lowest...)

CLEAN: This means that you are left completely free to hand the object out. For example, after an ACR you can hand the deck out for examination freely. No work to be done. Totally impromtu. That is Clean

TIDY: This simply means that the effect utilized a gimmick and the gimmick needs to be disposed of. then everything can be handed out. For example, a raven needs to be completely gone before you show your hands. That is tidy.

DECENT: This means that the gimmick is a bit tougher to dispose of but ban be gotten rid of with a little more difficulty. Then everything can be handed out. For example, A svengali deck can be examined but it needs to be switched out for another deck. That is Decent.

SLOPPY: This means that there is no way, that you know of, to switch things out or get rid of things. Therefor you must show the spectators the object and they must not touch it. For example, an invisible deck may be hard to swith especially when they immidiatly grab at it. This is Sloppy.

DIRTY: This means that it CRUCIAL that no one touches anything or else the trick is a fail. The cards can be displayed by you at the end but not in the middle. For example, an invisible plam routine can not be touched by spectators until the end when you show them and clean everything up. However, it makes the trick less examinable. That is Dirty.
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I hope that this will come in handy. Now, everyone can see what tricks are clean, tidy, decent, sloppy, and dirty and they will be able to decide what situations are best for each trick. Bye.

Dylan P.

 

[MagicSanj]

DP,

Well described, this will help many people when you review a product, such as thread.

Keep up the good work,

-Sanj

 

[Donald C.]

Well, all of the magicians here talk about ending a trick clean and such. But what is clean? How do you know if you end clean? does that mean that the spectator can touch the cards or do you have to? Well, I have created a five level ranking system to determining wether an effect is clean or not. Here it is:
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(From Highest to Lowest...)

CLEAN: This means that you are left completely free to hand the object out. For example, after an ACR you can hand the deck out for examination freely. No work to be done. Totally impromtu. That is Clean

TIDY: This simply means that the effect utilized a gimmick and the gimmick needs to be disposed of. then everything can be handed out. For example, a raven needs to be completely gone before you show your hands. That is tidy.

DECENT: This means that the gimmick is a bit tougher to dispose of but ban be gotten rid of with a little more difficulty. Then everything can be handed out. For example, A svengali deck can be examined but it needs to be switched out for another deck. That is Decent.

SLOPPY: This means that there is no way, that you know of, to switch things out or get rid of things. Therefor you must show the spectators the object and they must not touch it. For example, an invisible deck may be hard to swith especially when they immidiatly grab at it. This is Sloppy.

DIRTY: This means that it CRUCIAL that no one touches anything or else the trick is a fail. The cards can be displayed by you at the end but not in the middle. For example, an invisible plam routine can not be touched by spectators until the end when you show them and clean everything up. However, it makes the trick less examinable. That is Dirty.
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I hope that this will come in handy. Now, everyone can see what tricks are clean, tidy, decent, sloppy, and dirty and they will be able to decide what situations are best for each trick. Bye.

Dylan P.

Great little explanations there

 

[Dylan P.]

Great little explanations there

I'm not sure... was that sarcastic or serious?

 

[magicman384]

That ill be helpful in reviews.

GOod Job!

 

[Dima]

For example, an invisible plam routine can not be touched by spectators until the end when you show them and clean everything up. However, it makes the trick less examinable. That is Dirty.

Not sure about this though. Most things cannot be "examined" midway through the effect. If you've just "lost" the card in the deck and are really holding a pinky above it, you cannot hand the deck out without peeking. Yet this is in no way "dirty".

Same with a trick like Reset where the cards are on the table or Ace Assemblies.

I think it should only apply to gimmicked/gaffed tricks.

 

[Dylan P.]

Not sure about this though. Most things cannot be "examined" midway through the effect. If you've just "lost" the card in the deck and are really holding a pinky above it, you cannot hand the deck out without peeking. Yet this is in no way "dirty".

Same with a trick like Reset where the cards are on the table or Ace Assemblies.

I think it should only apply to gimmicked/gaffed tricks.

I think so too but I couldn't think of an example. Give me an example and I'll happily change it.

 

[CaseyC]

Thank you for these descriptions. If people actually follow them with reviews and stuff, we hopefully won't have those clean-dirty arguments.
Very accurate too. Thanks!

 

[praetoritevong]

Well, as far as IP routines go - mostly, they do end clean, it's just dirty in the middle, so it's not really dirty in clean-up per se. I think you're going the wrong way with dirty, as Dima mentioned - Sloppy/Dirty are pretty much the same thing right now. It's just a given that the spectator can't look at the deck at some point in the routine, unless it's self-working, so that classifcation is a little pointless.