Wither/Shizoid vanish

Chicken · Oct 6, 2007

HO-ho-ho! peoples of the wonderful world of coins- I have a question to ask you all! (actually 2 questions, but -who's counting?-)

questione Uno: What is the difference between the Apollo wither vanish, and the Ogawa Shizoid vanish? ho-ho?

Questione Dos: What do you recomend for me; Shoot in Hollywood, or your preference of the cultural Xchange videos? I am looking into coins, but a slew of card magic is also OK.

Any help would be appreciated.

-Chicken (hoho!) (i just love saying that)

(if this belongs in the product questions section, sorry. I just posted it here because of the wither vanish shizoid thing.

Chicken · Oct 7, 2007

Can anybody help me?

-chicken

HOHO!

Amane · Oct 7, 2007

Well...Schizoid vanish is essentially the wither vanish, just a routine showing several methods to achieve that same effect.

As for CX vs Hollywood, I think CX has more useful material is it.
Shoot said hollywood was a punishment dvd ~lol
I really like Hollywood due to the hard stuff in it (coz im a tech junkie)
but I think i benefited more from CX.
so yea...I recommend picking up CX rather than hollywood.

Chicken · Oct 7, 2007

Thanks a lot! again, two questions. HOho!

1. is there a variation of the shizoid vanish that ends clean?

2. which cultural Xchange do you recomend? 1 or 2

-Chicken

HOHO!

Gary Yin · Oct 8, 2007

CX2 doesn't have whither vanish.

Jeremy C. · Oct 8, 2007

hey, quick question... where could one learn the wither or schizoid vanish?

also, is there any place to learn Apollo's techniques on pickpocketing? thanks. sorry for being offtopic.

treadstone · Oct 9, 2007

The whither vanish can be learned in Cultural Exchange vol.1 or Apollo's TIME FOR A CHANGE lecture notes and schizoid vanish in Shoot in Hollywood DVD.

some more info
http://www.holyshoot.com/pages/magic_shop.htm

Chicken · Oct 10, 2007

I don't think Apollo teaches his pickpocketing techniques anywhere, though i'm guessing its just good misdirection, common pickpocketing techniques, and a lot of guts.

- Chicken (HOHO!)

EDIT: i just realized that apollo teaches his watch steal in "Time for a change" lecture notes.

treadstone · Oct 11, 2007

Here's two videos of Apollo pickpocketing live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUDqLxqBTDg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAt_dMKAkDA

Hiro · Oct 11, 2007

From memory there is a version of the Wither vanish which ends clean on cultural xchange 1, but it's pretty difficult.

I liked cultural xchange 1 better as it has more practical routines and sleights for me.

Hiro

scottbaird · Oct 11, 2007

Hiro said:
From memory there is a version of the Wither vanish which ends clean on cultural xchange 1, but it's pretty difficult.

I liked cultural xchange 1 better as it has more practical routines and sleights for me.

Hiro

It doesn't end "clean", but with some ingenuity, it looks clean.
Scott.

Chicken · Oct 12, 2007

I saw a video where shoot transfered the coin from j.w. grip to an edge grip. Scott- is this what you're talking about. I saw video on youtube where shoot did a wither vanish and he ended with both hands empty, so is THIS what you'rs talking about?

HOHO!
-Chicken

Hiro · Oct 13, 2007

Chicken, if Shoot showed both hands empty then I'm sure you are referring to a variation of the Shoot Shot from CX1.

Hiro

Chicken · Oct 13, 2007

Thanks Hiro. I'm just going to cave and get CX1 today. i hope. is shoot shot not the one with the muscle pass? anyway, the video i saw was shoot performing various variations of the shizoid vanish. Search Shizoid vanish and it should be there.

Thanks and HOHO!

-Chicken

Hiro · Oct 13, 2007

Actually I take back what I said, Scott was right. I just watched it on youtube. CX1 should still lead you in the right direction.

Hiro

Amane · Oct 17, 2007

The one with the edge grip is actually a different routine of Shoot's
can't remember the name of it off the top of my head but it's in his Busters 2 DvD