Wow, I have been gone on this one for awhile and I get told that I am stupid. Nice Mods – how is this professional behaviour? Well, since they can’t read it all – again, I will deal with it as I see fit.
Let me start with Guardian - well, I am starting to wonder how you pick these awards for IJCM - because the award is only as good as the credentials from the person giving it out. Now that I have read more of your posts – I value your opinion MUCH less. So here is the deal:
What empirical evidence do you have that “only magicians” look up exposure videos. Have you done a study on it – or are you basing this on your years of experience doing magic – consider how young you are – I am not sure that is enough to be considered valid.
We can have a pissing contest on what we have experienced – I have heard of many people looking up magic on Youtube to figure out the secret, at the High School level and beyond.
The thing is guys, at one point it took an investment of effort to learn magic, YOU NEEDED TO KNOW HOW TO READ - it was special to those that had the secret, as the best kept stuff is STILL in books – now anyone can figure out the “often inaccurate” history of method and ownership – like the personal story of Roy Walton being called a fool for correcting a young student naming his effect the Voodoo cards, when it was HIS card warp. You say “lay people” don’t look it up – haha, which is because once they get a hold of Youtube...they aren’t lay people – search the words “learn card trick” and see all the methods that are handed out as they are worthless.
Guardian I lost MUCH respect for you when you called this concept of exposure stupid. Your reaction also made me believe that this is how you find your magic – illegal downloads. You appear to have very little magic education and know nothing that isn’t spoon fed to you by videos. Do you believe your disclaimer on Royal Road is good – or does it remind them there is a method they can research? So at the end of this “amazing” experience, you say – oh, by the way – the methods, that are as simple to learn as reading...or if you have half a brain and some computer savvy, you can find them on the internet, hope you enjoyed my “tricks”. It’s like watching a movie and being reminded at the high impact ending that they were actors – like a sad blooper real – because the movie wasn’t funny or good enough to leave a better impact. ...no no, it’s like MERRY CHRISTMAS CHILDREN – then, surprise, fake beard – no such thing as Santa. Nice work!
Do I think magic Youtube exposure will kill magic – nope – but it does hurt it. I think if you follow some of my suggestions, it will help that. If not, no big deal, it won’t hurt magic forever, but for now it does – and for the most part there is an unnecessarily large amount of poor magic on Youtube. Search card trick on Youtube...look 5 down to the “Best card trick in the world” - very natural double. But who cares – nobody sees it...there must be 9,320,838 magicians that really enjoy watching that trick. Nice call, I think you did just crap yourself, because you learned something. Doesn’t add up – and this is just one of many posts – not all are very so little or so much, but to say that NO exposure occurs...or that it occurs so little it doesn’t matter – ignorant to the concept of magic – keeping the secret. Lastly Guardian – it doesn’t sound like you agree with Aris when you say that people watch a video again and again and break it down...
Which leads me to Aris:
Buddy, you openly say you are not into reading so much, I wonder if you read this thread at all – but to say that people can watch an effect again and again is ludicrous.
First rule of magic...Guardian are you reading? – Don’t expose the method! Keep the secret!
Second – Never repeat a trick twice? First time it’s a good trick – second time is a good lesson. Not all methods can withstand being seen again and again – very few methods can – and this was my point. Good luck videotaping card under glass and believing it will be magical seen again and again.
Please take more time thinking about the post and reading what has been said I know they are long – I am sure you would prefer a Youtube video of it to make life easier - I bet you hardly made it through this one Aris – but magic isn’t meant to be spoon fed and even though Guardian is too young to realize it – the words I speak are valid.
Let me start with Guardian - well, I am starting to wonder how you pick these awards for IJCM - because the award is only as good as the credentials from the person giving it out. Now that I have read more of your posts – I value your opinion MUCH less. So here is the deal:
What empirical evidence do you have that “only magicians” look up exposure videos. Have you done a study on it – or are you basing this on your years of experience doing magic – consider how young you are – I am not sure that is enough to be considered valid.
We can have a pissing contest on what we have experienced – I have heard of many people looking up magic on Youtube to figure out the secret, at the High School level and beyond.
The thing is guys, at one point it took an investment of effort to learn magic, YOU NEEDED TO KNOW HOW TO READ - it was special to those that had the secret, as the best kept stuff is STILL in books – now anyone can figure out the “often inaccurate” history of method and ownership – like the personal story of Roy Walton being called a fool for correcting a young student naming his effect the Voodoo cards, when it was HIS card warp. You say “lay people” don’t look it up – haha, which is because once they get a hold of Youtube...they aren’t lay people – search the words “learn card trick” and see all the methods that are handed out as they are worthless.
Guardian I lost MUCH respect for you when you called this concept of exposure stupid. Your reaction also made me believe that this is how you find your magic – illegal downloads. You appear to have very little magic education and know nothing that isn’t spoon fed to you by videos. Do you believe your disclaimer on Royal Road is good – or does it remind them there is a method they can research? So at the end of this “amazing” experience, you say – oh, by the way – the methods, that are as simple to learn as reading...or if you have half a brain and some computer savvy, you can find them on the internet, hope you enjoyed my “tricks”. It’s like watching a movie and being reminded at the high impact ending that they were actors – like a sad blooper real – because the movie wasn’t funny or good enough to leave a better impact. ...no no, it’s like MERRY CHRISTMAS CHILDREN – then, surprise, fake beard – no such thing as Santa. Nice work!
Do I think magic Youtube exposure will kill magic – nope – but it does hurt it. I think if you follow some of my suggestions, it will help that. If not, no big deal, it won’t hurt magic forever, but for now it does – and for the most part there is an unnecessarily large amount of poor magic on Youtube. Search card trick on Youtube...look 5 down to the “Best card trick in the world” - very natural double. But who cares – nobody sees it...there must be 9,320,838 magicians that really enjoy watching that trick. Nice call, I think you did just crap yourself, because you learned something. Doesn’t add up – and this is just one of many posts – not all are very so little or so much, but to say that NO exposure occurs...or that it occurs so little it doesn’t matter – ignorant to the concept of magic – keeping the secret. Lastly Guardian – it doesn’t sound like you agree with Aris when you say that people watch a video again and again and break it down...
Which leads me to Aris:
Buddy, you openly say you are not into reading so much, I wonder if you read this thread at all – but to say that people can watch an effect again and again is ludicrous.
First rule of magic...Guardian are you reading? – Don’t expose the method! Keep the secret!
Second – Never repeat a trick twice? First time it’s a good trick – second time is a good lesson. Not all methods can withstand being seen again and again – very few methods can – and this was my point. Good luck videotaping card under glass and believing it will be magical seen again and again.
Please take more time thinking about the post and reading what has been said I know they are long – I am sure you would prefer a Youtube video of it to make life easier - I bet you hardly made it through this one Aris – but magic isn’t meant to be spoon fed and even though Guardian is too young to realize it – the words I speak are valid.
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