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Thanks for the input! I actually have been messing with so so so many different versions and handlings for erdnase over the past few years... I have found, personally, I like it slower and a bit more open. For the magic that I want to show my audience, I keep things such as that a bit more...

I believe the main point is is that the spectator shouldn't really think its a sleight of hand miracle. True magic wouldn't have this thought of "sleight of hand". I think the goal of a performer should be that the audience cannot resort to any possibility of sleight of hand or gimmicks. Keenan

Sleight of hand Verse Gimmicks is a never ending topic... Sure gimmicks seem to be the easy way out, but they leave you dirty. Gimmicks can do what sleights cant. Sleights give you satisfaction. Etc, etc, etc. My thoughts on it are who cares whether you are using sleights or gimmicks...

My video is done. Fill me in on how to make a battle, I have no idea. Haha, thanks. Keenan

To the Bold: The same exact way that any older gentleman/lady would do it. Experience, practice, time, and effort. I see so many "kids" make up excuses with "I am too young to create true magic right now" when in reality, it is quite possible to do so. Through time, effort, trial and error...

Good Concept man. I know it is still in the works, but your patter/script needs so much work. Why are you telling them what you are doing when they can blatantly see? There is no need to say like "I am going to fold the cards" " I am going to rub them on my elbow" Etc. Fill in these things...

When I do this it tells me I am not logged into my forum account... When i obviously am? Hm. Keenan

Sounds good. I will try and get it done today, but if not tomorrow. Keenan

Hey guys, first batt. Haha, I don't usually do these... Ever actually. But I figured its all in some fun! Erdnase change "battle" Any variation. One erdnase change, thats it. No editing. No music. Just a intro and credits. Anyone up for some fun? Keenan

Thank you guys. I just found my video camera charger, so I am working on some other pieces. Better quality ;) More to come, Keenan

I personally know what I do need to work on, but it is always good for other peoples opinions. :) Keenan

To see how my card handling is touching up. This is after about 7 months without touching a deck of cards, was wondering your thoughts? (been doing magic for about 7-8 years though, took a 7 month break) I'm still messing with erdnase ideas, so this is one of many. Thanks...

Old thread, new views. Entertainment. Magic. Where is the line for you guys? Are you just looking to entertain? Or are you looking to create a moment in time for your audience where they stop and think, "Is that real?" Or is it another moment where you bring them back to a happy memory...

The picture with the ace of spades and the joker in the background is amazing. If only the orange towel in the upper right hand corner wasn't there... ;) Great work man. Keenan

Actually, People are brought onto stage very often so that the rest of the audience can see their reaction and build off that. It is somewhat of a way to get the reactions starting. Depending on the size of the stage, how many people, budget, etc. You could, if you really needed to, get...

I could only imagine what it was like to even be in the presence of people such as Slydini, Blackstone Sr., etc... Must have been amazing, thanks for sharing! Keenan

Make it clear about exposing? Was he telling you how to do the effect? Or was he trying to perform it without exposing? This is not exposure, per se, yeah, he was exposing the effect, but he wasn't trying to. THEREFORE you should encourage and tell him what to cover and how to fix his...

Anyone from Asher should be bought in my opinion. The Diving Board Double is great and looks great. Works very well. Keenan

Does that make up for it? Why would you want to turn people away? Keenan

"Never. EVER, Perform magic again. PLEASE practice before doing a trick, you just revealed it to however many people watched the trick. If I didn't know how it was done, I would now. I hate people who think they can just do some magic on youtube for fun and get away with it. "...