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blind deception , could you please (without revealing anything) describe the psy force found in freeform mentalism in a bit more detail? I've been considering buying it for a while now and would love to know a little about that particular force magic swag, google "freeform mentalism...

Peter Turner is generally considered a great modern mentalist, at least from what I've seen. His stuff is a bit pricey, but you can youtube him and see if you like it and if it's what you're looking for. Darren Brown is another one to check for. They both have many books and DVDs. Thats one...

appreciate the help teedee, thank you the thing is, i do the vernon pushover using the left thumb and ring finger, so when I take that double with the right hand I need a bit of pressure on the cards with the right thumb in order to keep it splitting when retrieving it. Dont get me wrong...

I use bicycle and usually use newer decks, switch maybe weekly

Ok, I see what you're saying. Even so, the cards are just so touchy and eager to slightly separate as I remove the right thumb. Hmm , maybe time is the answer, definitely frustrating though

so yes, I've been working on a double turnover for about 4 months now, and I'm about to revert to just picking the cards up by the edges (which seems very unnatural looking to me) unless anyone has any better ideas - i always get card separation as i flip the double over. i can drag it to...

neat trick, i have a few ideas on how its done, do we have permission to post reveals on this forum? People tend to get pretty mad about that

I saw a youtube video of Criss angel doing a very similar trick, not exactly as you described but close

I've noticed standard bicycle cards with that air cushion finish are very slippery until they've been broken in a few days. Is that the same with all cards, including the cards made specifically for magic? Any brands better than others for this? Being a beginner, slippery cards are a major...

good stuff xavier perret has a really dope tutorial on a bottom deal that i'm assuming he created, although now that I see you doing some of his moves i'm not certain. But everyone who reads this should check him out, one of the best magic instructors on youtube with the most entertaining...

made me smile, thank you for that :) as for performance, pretty good! good patter and everything. The only criticism I would give is that the force at the begining looked a tad bit un natural, but still good. So overall, great stuff.

i've also noticed that when i handle the double after a while when my hands are getting sweaty the sticky-ness of the moisture on my fingers will sometimes cause them to separate as i let go of them . i suppose there's no way to avoid this other than keeping hands dry?

alright, sounds good. The lift Im usually using now is vernon's push off, took me a while to learn but it looks great. Im assuming in order to do double lifts as quickly as vernon does in that video you pretty much have to use a strike double lift or a lift that uses no break, right? Or...

youre right. I just saw that Dai Vernon video and was like man, i'd love to crank out doubles that fast.

Is the strike double 100 percent when you get good at it? I believe Vernon recommended a break, making me think it has drawbacks

so since my brief career in magic has started, i've been quite intrigued by the double lift. Currently I use a pinky count into a push off or just a regular turnover. However, since watching this clip of dai vernon perform, I now realize how badly I suck and how slow i am...

Peter turner obviously, loool. Can't edit thread title for some reason since learning asi winds acaan, I've become a bit obsessed with the trick. Can someone give the specs on the Free form mentalism version of acaan? Peter performs various versions, and I'd love to know which one is on it...

Just for posterity, I bought Asi Winds version. It is pretty similar to the version Criss Angel uses in that video. I'm very happy with it.

Yep, i think i'm good to go, and i've already been reading annemann's book. thanks for the advice guys

Ok, well I've been forcing cards on people with mainly the classic force, other forces as well, and doing just that for several months now. So I feel more than ready to go on to mental forces.