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a method beyond the participant being in on it? And how do you know?

I always make it clear that there is no superhuman or psychic powers being used. I don't believe in lying even if for the sake of art.

have you all seen Peter turners acaan? Not the one he posted on his freeform mentalism dvd and penguin lecture...the one where he never touches the cards and they belong to the other person Saw it a year or two ago and concluded he's using stooges who have been sworn to secrecy for life, or...

it's called cards across, but i was unable to figure out how he did the entire trick in his version

Hey, I live in Raleigh as well. Maybe we could meet up and practice sometime. I'm still a noob, 7 months in, I'm looking for magic friends though

saw this trick , loved it. Anyone know the name? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJYCueUc43o gracias amigos _Eric (...what??)

well, invisible decks are not 20 dollars a piece. They're usually 10 bucks or less from what I've seen. I do prefer making them though.

one thing i noticed is most magicians dont have a great double turnover. You can always square the cards as they land on the deck as long as you don't let them get too far out of line, which isnt that difficult, and usually fool lay people that said, it's obviously good, and possible to keep...

i've gotten better at it, it's just the touch of letting go with the thumb. I found out I have been practicing a really difficult double lift, which is largely why it was so hard (vernon loose lifts)

they're fairly cheap, so if you dont want to bother making one and have some money, you could buy one. Depends really. Its always good to learn to make one in my opinion.

I use the krylon matte finish 1311 i believe it is called. You really don't need much of, 1 spray per card. Mismag on youtube has a good tutorial on making them, check it out. Efficient

what is the spelling force? Where can i learn it?

the cards actually separate as my right thumb lets go of the double to flip it over. its not the actual flipping motion. But yeah, maybe i'll just try something easier

my webcam isnt that good, but i did take a short video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=589ma4_LsLM&feature=youtu.be looking at it, it looks pretty great. I dont know, maybe I Just have friends that are too sharp, they can see the separation when the cards land and notice its really two...

just to update, i never did figure out how to keep em perfectly aligned. Maybe it just takes a year or two. Thanks to everyone for commenting though, great tips

which type do you recommend to someone whose just starting to bottom deal?

Ok, i've messed around with a lighter touch and it helps a bit, still not perfect. Its almost like my finger is slightly sticky naturally and causes separation coming off the card. Might just be something practice will make better though, not sure.

but there are some tricks like double exposure by asi wind where if youre going to do a mental force with it, it's either hit or miss. I suppose theres no easy way out of that, you just take an occasional loss

so when it fails, what do you do? Just say it didnt work and move onto something else?

i've always wondered how effective psychological forces truely are. I almost feel like it would require the right type of spectator in addition to some luck. And I assume you always need an out