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if they are thinking slight of hand you already lost them. if you need borrowed items to achieve your lacking somthing. im not saying there is no value in them, but there are many many other things that add to effect by much more

im hoping this will be less exposed then E, and not on every page of google

i have read the book, but not you, I or anyone here is as slick as Edmound duntes, thus it is quite lame comming from our mouths

not david, kenner who works for david is involved

its less about the coin and more about the routine. i used the stone purse finish cause it misdirects from the coin. how did i stick my finger throught the coin? its just a illsuion, *vanish* even the purse is a illusion its made of stone. everyone is now shocked and is examining the purse. no...

id just use... a silk vanisher much less work

trevor om sorry, but that last line was either dorky, lame or both lol

more so all this one tricks require gaffs or gimmicks, people have been selling single tricks for years and years, nothing new

also today i did coin to impossiable location, locked box in a sealed bag. with a barrowed signed coin. now in this case it is vital cause it tells the spec its the same coin. lets get this forum off to a good start and think post through instead of posting half thoughts that mean little.

vital? i disagree. for example today i performed karate coin with a stone purse ending. reaction ? "you got to be kidding me" borrowed? no. signed? no. lets be more specific on what kind of effect that this helps, and why.

i won;t be in the forums much i perfer the cafe, i don;t like the free for all forum set up. its all gravy

i hope the forums here are better then E, i stoped ever browsing thiers, too many kids that don;t know much, but trying to give advice thats usually never good

what cracks me up is the the sale E has going on starting today .... hmm wonder why that is LOL

BJ, im glad they got some coin guys on staff, i hope to see more coin magic outta you all

it looks great, i currently do geoff lattas fisting copper silver same effect but a little less clean and this change looks just a little better. in the latta routine you set your hand on top the coin and lift it to show the change, this has a rubbing or sliding motion making it more visual

i bought it, it said the gaff is included. if my source is correct is a variation on a steve dusheck trick

seriously digg has been horriable with exposure... it begins already...

there will be more in october, i got somthing else so im waiting till then

very very cool good job all

im glad they didn;t i don;t like the thicker cards