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Kevin Ho's? oh yeah from Smooth Operations.

Please do...I think i'm harbouring an unhealthy fascination with such effects...

I felt this natural impulse to try it out once I heard them talking about it. :D

Yeah, I nicked yer Batmobile while you slept. Don't ask me how though...I was probably asleep myself!

:rolleyes:My original post says I have bought the book, and I had it in front of me...tsc tsc... Hah! Im kidding - thanks for trying anyways. I'll be giving Even Four more on the Floor a shot, although I have to come up with some patter and justification for the stages...

Burn, baby Burn, ta dá dá du dá dum...*singing the song*. Nah, im kiding - but like Randomwrath said, people around here should at least put an effort into your posts, to make them legible and comprehensible; are you in a hurry or something? I'm not burning you, I'm just making a general...

ooh Conspiracy theories...Penn and Teller should do a Bull**** episode on this...:) Hum...I will have to investigate further before I have an avid opinion. To the batmobile!

I can say for a fact the Hermann Shift acomplishes the same thing a pass does, Except it brings the selcted card to the bottom. But im sure you can modify it easily and make the cardshif tto the top. ;)

Hum...I won't be an ass and say "don't be a bum, Books are best - eh", so ill point you towards this, it might help: http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/product.php?productid=6706 This is the best dvd on passes money can buy! I bought it and it has not dissapointed me!

RVC is good, but it is a little gutsy. Do you want somehting impromptu, using a table, invoving a spectator, involving some othe material (handkerchief etc...)...? Hayashi has an awesome change calld...Dragon, i believe. It's found on one of his few dvd's.

awww...poppycrock.

I got it mainly because it was for free - because I seldom use this change. Perhaps now that I had the proper instructions, I will.

brainblower, do you think you could show me that clip? Do you rememebr anything form it that may help me find it? thanks!

That's right ;)

Gregory Wilson has one in Pyrotechnic Pasteboards - I forgot the name but you should check it out anyways! Good Luck!

NT, Jay Sankey has an excelent dvd especially for people with the same problems as you - http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1000 Good Luck

I liked it. Personally, Ive been using the click change by d&d, but the Clipshift seems like a nice alternative. Keep up the good ideas!

Heh. I liked the old Smoke & Mirrors better. They hd a more elegant feel to them. ANd the simplified faces are a big no-no in my book. Pity - Because the cards seem like they handle very well. The very simple faces coupled with extensively complicated back design just don't merge. DOesn't look...

Kissing shoes, eh? heh, im just kidding.

Preatoritevong, you're ocnfusing the heck out of me. :p... I cant wait for the preview vid either!