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same here people are funny

that was awsome!

i'm pretty sure there is a DVD called 50 ways to force a card or something like that so yeah get that

they already have that anyway something new from DnD even though they have there on demand thing

true but good cards can be an aid to the preformer and you don't want to preform with cards your not comfortable with.

i'm with cringe smoke and mirrors then split spades would be my choices. but out of the ones you gave i would say i am a FAN (pun intended) for tally ho fan backs! no that was a lie i just had to say it i love centurians!

the on demands are not dvds

awsome i can't wait for mine, what shipping did you choose?

they aren't rare at all except for the brown ones, you can get them for like 2 bucks and personally i think they look nice but they are really bad cards.

i was thinking about getting some wiregrams but i don't know what are your guys' thoughts on them?

what shipping did you get?

don't speed up the video

sweet it is nice to know the gimmick is easy to make and is quite sturdy that is what i was most worried about. but when you say it is not that deceptive do you mean not deceptive to a spectator or to another magician because i would say that is quite deceptive.

is it fragile or a nice sturdy gimmick?

what about the miller cascade control it is angle proof-ish but it won't work if you absolutly need to do a pass due to it moves only one card. i would use the truffle shuffle. if all else fails due something that is going to make them look no matter what. like a side trick

just be patient you will get it.

that is what they mean by download

15 minutes wow but i still can't wait just got my shipping confrimation

well in the last podcast dan even states that this deck was meant for them and them only but since they had to get so many they decided to sell them so it doesn't really matter about what they look like to other people once they are satisfied they are going to keep it and for the people...

that is not the point of this thread, i don't limit my self to T11 and E i know to expand my knowlegde and be unique i just happen to just find out about this today just like a lot of other people and i liked it but i wanted to see what others thought of it before i made a irrational decicion.