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If you are serious about magic then respond to this, if you prefer to just show some "tricks" to friends and keep it as a hobby then don't respond.

Flourishing is fine, it's stupid and pointless during magic though. I'll stick by that statement now and forever.

Flourishing just proves you can manipulate cards with ease. You ever heard of the simplest effects being some of the most powerful, well the most direct moves are the best sellers of the effect.

Debating isn't really bad, it doesn't mean you try to get the other person to agree but understand your point of view on the subject. I think flourishing is very stupid during a card effect, it doesn't add anything other than suspicion. I don't expect people to pull off a jackson five but if...

If they are asking to see it again then it's most likely to try to catch you. Which means you need to slow it down and perform it better. I rarely have people ask me to repeat it since there was nothing to see in the first place.

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Yay, now with one more paragraph comes the final sixty words. Hoorah

Oh D ICE R hush you silly aussie fool. 99 is a card trick, in my mind so that's all there is to it. :D

So how was the meet up, any videos of some magic. No offense but watching a group of guys flourish is quite boring so some actual footage of walkaround would be quite entertaining to watch.

No works cited from me, only one small inspiration I have from all of this. No idea what to do since I won't simply add adjectives to make this better. I've never had to do 700 words in a five paragraph form, is it possible????? The madnesssss Ineski, funny person in the chat room. Made...

I don't know about all of you but making this 700 is quite difficult. I am getting up to 580 and this was after editing, I have six to seven sentence paragraphs so I'm not quite sure how this will work out.

Without knowing what is wrong how can we fix anything? This is the point behind my subject, later on down the road we were going to talk about what we can do to fix the issues. I'm not a negative person but I am very critical when people want to take something seriously because I want to help them.

99 by Sankey, the only thing I use from him.

Here's my list for you, and this is recommended from me and others I know. Designing Miracles Strong Magic Card College Split Spades Approaching Magic Inner Secrets to Magic If you don't have any of those books then you need to rethink your stuff and get those instead. If you do magic...

Barely I can do B4 cut, Werm, and double 190 Helix. Why do you ask?

I was talking over the weekend to some guys from T11 and some others and had a great chat with Morgician. The talk was about many subjects, presentation, constructive criticism, and others. Here is something I would like for people to participate in if you are serious about magic and advancing...

I won't go word for word but you both need practice. Practice more and more, I see people with four years of doing sleights and they still need practice. Critique and go slowly with what you may have a problem with. No reason to rush it especially since you guys are younger.

Even the overall performance was just another kid showing tricks. What was there besides some quick moves and generic presentation? There are so many simple and easy things that we magicians look over when performing, simply because the effect is the best part of the performance. Presentation...

Joker, I gave you an easy example of what would look better. A flourish for an acr like he did, or where you take their card place it right in the middle and snap their fingers and then it appears. Flourishing and magic do not mix, all it does it prove that you are only using sleight of hand...

Flourishing in magic is as useful as stabbing yourself in the leg. Offers no point other than to get attention, and it detracts from the effect. What's more powerful to you, someone takes a card places it directly in the middle and then it appears on the top immediately. Or they take the card...