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  1. Ben Long

    "Stealing" routines

    I'm not saying that one should steal patter and presentation. That's probably the worst thing you can do as a magician. People work hard for good presentations. I personally see nothing wrong with being inspired by another to learn something. In fact, I feel that it's the basis for a lot...
  2. Ben Long

    Old Timer Magicians

    Woah, now. I don't think that's the intention at all. Yes, perhaps the conversation got a bit heated, but I don't think that was his intention at all. I didn't seem like it to me, at least. It's a matter of historical accuracy, and nothing more... Be cool...
  3. Ben Long

    Must-read book for all magicians

    If you haven't, pick up and read The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, by Michael Chabon. It is an amazing book about magic, among other things. It won a Pulitzer prize. The debate about Houdini made me think of it. It definitely deserves its own thread, though. It touches on...
  4. Ben Long

    Old Timer Magicians

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMm9pSr_RU Check out this little link of Vernon himself saying "Houdini didn't do magic, he did escapes." (00:27). I'd say that's a primary source as Vernon was alive during that time period. But what the hell do I know, eh? But don't get me wrong, I've got...
  5. Ben Long

    "Stealing" routines

    Yes, I agree that certain metaphors will only go so far. The thing is though, Ricky Jay performs a version of Dream of Aces, as well as Vernon's 3CM. He does his own beautiful handling of both that I would never dream to recreate. I wouldn't try to use his presentation, but if I know...
  6. Ben Long

    "Stealing" routines

    Right, so as a magician, one might do a trick that Ricky Jay does, but he or she wouldn't do every routine in the set as one that Ricky Jay did. Two pianists are allowed to play the same piano concerto, but wouldn't necessarily play all of the same pieces as each other.
  7. Ben Long

    "Stealing" routines

    The way I've always thought about it is that magicians are like concert pianists. They don't necessarily compose their own pieces, in fact, they almost exclusively play other people's pieces, but each has his or her own style, his or her own stage presence. It's the same with magicians...
  8. Ben Long

    Can't discuss Daniel Garcia anymore?

    So, when does he get to be an artist?
  9. Ben Long

    'Prestige' - Stage Show Benefit

    That's pretty badass. So, you're a big Kafka fan too?
  10. Ben Long

    Magic Books

    Actually, I think it's be cool if T11 sold artist lecture notes or something... Books that have influenced me: The Art of Astonishment Totally out of Control The Paper Engine
  11. Ben Long

    DVD // Brian Tudor // King of Cards // Showoff 3 // Review

    Great review, dude. Is it just me or does Brain Tudor look like a cross between Heath Ledger and Stephen Segal?
  12. Ben Long

    Saturday Night Contest: The Vespa

    Ok. Magic trick time. Just pick a card over the Internet and I'll tell you what it is...
  13. Ben Long

    My new favorite card trick ever

    I have not yet had any girls send me their socks...
  14. Ben Long

    Saturday Night Contest: The Vespa

    1. The horrifying result of the human TNR project... 2. CK: "What do you mean, there's some weird growth on my back?" 3. CK: "Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead..." (Pulp Fiction Reference, CK as Butch, DG as Fabienne).
  15. Ben Long

    Future SNC Topics

    I've said this millions of times that I think we need to get away from the webcams and out performing for real people. Maybe for a future competition, you could have us upload an unedited video of a performance for somebody. Some sort of showmanship competition. Granted, it may take a bit...
  16. Ben Long

    Black Ghost Deck 2nd Edition Thoughts

    The original ghost joker looked way cooler. The new one is just trying too hard.
  17. Ben Long

    My new favorite card trick ever

    Numero tres (that's number three, for anyone who doesn't speak whatever language that is...).
  18. Ben Long

    My new favorite card trick ever

    Oh, awesome. I very well may check those out. Are they a similar handling?
  19. Ben Long

    Aliun Levitation

    I wonder if Mr. Bayme would like to tell us a bit about the project. What was using the device like?
  20. Ben Long

    My new favorite card trick ever

    I personally have a bit of trouble getting people to follow directions on this one. They always just slap the pack and then remove their hand. I hate to explicitly tell them to keep their hands there...
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